From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G9Jtn-0005Bw-Dk for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 05 Aug 2006 11:00:55 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k75AxwcB029187; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:59:58 GMT Received: from mail-relay-3.tiscali.it (mail-relay-3.tiscali.it [213.205.33.43]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k75Aw75e026283 for ; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 10:58:07 GMT Received: from c1358217.kevquinn.com (84.222.84.87) by mail-relay-3.tiscali.it (7.3.110.2) id 44D225570002714C for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:58:07 +0200 Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 12:57:46 +0200 From: "Kevin F. Quinn" To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Make FEATURES=test the default Message-ID: <20060805125746.5aae6cd7@c1358217.kevquinn.com> In-Reply-To: <200608051149.53640.kugelfang@gentoo.org> References: <20060805021158.11ca6b15@c1358217.kevquinn.com> <200608050239.16528.kugelfang@gentoo.org> <20060805111910.18ebc530@c1358217.kevquinn.com> <200608051149.53640.kugelfang@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.0 (GTK+ 2.8.19; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_UhnfnCvBaeMS0qX2IG6t=A_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: af23fe0e-5dd4-4513-8ad3-2543237ffe89 X-Archives-Hash: a539fece400a214a65dcfac8667da25c --Sig_UhnfnCvBaeMS0qX2IG6t=A_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 11:49:53 +0200 Danny van Dyk wrote: > Please re-read the list of packages that fail tests: > * glibc > * autoconf > * gettext > * tar > That makes _4_ system packages. Before I would consider making=20 > FEATURES=3Dtest a default, I would add least want the system set to=20 > actually merge with it. So you're happy to let users install these packages without them knowing the tests would fail? I certainly agree they should pass their tests. autoconf-2.60, gettext-0.15 and tar-1.15.1-r1, which are the latest versions I have installed here, all pass on my system. If they fail on your platform, then you should make sure bugs are open and the relevant maintainers are doing something about it, and IMO they should not go to arch (i.e. should remain ~arch) until the test issues are resolved. Thing is, at the moment you have a bunch of packages installed that fail their tests. This may mean the tests are broken, however it may also mean the packages are not working correctly on your system, and I'd be concerned if I were you. Avoiding the test phase doesn't make the packages work, obviously. glibc is somewhat of a special case; it is especially sensitive to the environment - many of the tests assume a vanilla RedHat environment, and often the test failures in glibc are not actual problems with glibc but limitations of the test suite. However we should not be encouraging people to install glibc versions where the test failures are not understood. Clearly if something in glibc is not behaving properly, the effects can be nasty. --=20 Kevin F. Quinn --Sig_UhnfnCvBaeMS0qX2IG6t=A_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFE1Hmw9G2S8dekcG0RAk9EAKDM6e3E4Rg21ZOR6Rp6r4T3+6pDoQCfZ8fY jSUCiwfNdH0zmh3Iy/4z2Ds= =4qfh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_UhnfnCvBaeMS0qX2IG6t=A_-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list