[gentoo-dev] net-im/aim masked for removal

[gentoo-dev] net-im/aim masked for removal

[Donnie Berkholz]

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I've masked net-im/aim, AOL's proprietary offering. It hasn't seen a
release in years, it's binary-only, and it's far less capable than any
other client out there.

I'll remove it in 30 days, or whenever I remember it's still there.

Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/aim masked for removal

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> I've masked net-im/aim, AOL's proprietary offering. It hasn't seen a
> release in years, it's binary-only, and it's far less capable than any
> other client out there.


BTW: could be introduce an separate (optional) masking method 
for such proprietary stuff ?

I personally don't want to have such stuff on my system, but I'm 
really too lazy for check each package I intend to install by
its own. 

Would also be cool to have database for those things which is 
easy to query.


cu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/aim masked for removal

[John Myers]

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On Wednesday 02 August 2006 16:12, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> > I've masked net-im/aim, AOL's proprietary offering. It hasn't seen a
> > release in years, it's binary-only, and it's far less capable than any
> > other client out there.
>
> BTW: could be introduce an separate (optional) masking method
> for such proprietary stuff ?
>
I believe (don't have time to check right now) you'll want to look into 
ACCEPT_LICENSE

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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/aim masked for removal

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> BTW: could be introduce an separate (optional) masking method 
> for such proprietary stuff ?
> 
> I personally don't want to have such stuff on my system, but I'm 
> really too lazy for check each package I intend to install by
> its own. 
> 
> Would also be cool to have database for those things which is 
> easy to query.

I suppose what you want is true enforcement of ACCEPT_LICENSE, in which
you specify acceptable licenses.

Thanks,
Donnie


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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/aim masked for removal

[Thomas Cort]

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On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 16:18:04 -0700
John Myers <electronerd@electronerdia.net> wrote:

> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 16:12, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > * Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> > > I've masked net-im/aim, AOL's proprietary offering. It hasn't seen a
> > > release in years, it's binary-only, and it's far less capable than any
> > > other client out there.
> >
> > BTW: could be introduce an separate (optional) masking method
> > for such proprietary stuff ?
> >
> I believe (don't have time to check right now) you'll want to look into 
> ACCEPT_LICENSE

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17367

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Re: [gentoo-dev] net-im/aim masked for removal

[Enrico Weigelt]

* John Myers <electronerd@electronerdia.net> schrieb:
> On Wednesday 02 August 2006 16:12, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> > * Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> > > I've masked net-im/aim, AOL's proprietary offering. It hasn't seen a
> > > release in years, it's binary-only, and it's far less capable than any
> > > other client out there.
> >
> > BTW: could be introduce an separate (optional) masking method
> > for such proprietary stuff ?
> >
> I believe (don't have time to check right now) you'll want to 
> look into ACCEPT_LICENSE

Not necessarily. Licenses are not the only reason why someone 
likes to kick off binary-only packages. Also matters of stability,
binary compatibility performance, etc. 

For example an statically-linked package (not compiled by gentoo devs)
can introduce stability issues on hardly optimized systems, ie. 
libc w/o old ABIs, trimmed calling convention (enforced register passing),
etc, etc. There're lots of things which can be optimized that break 
the ABIs. Binary-Only packages have a large risk of failing here.

As an power-user (whom I have to be to know how to actually use 
these optimizations ;-)) I'd like to have a switch to kick 'em off
or at least let emerge warn me.


cu
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