From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G84bB-0000ir-7z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 02 Aug 2006 00:28:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k720RG4R004786; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:27:16 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k720OVNd006822 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:24:31 GMT Received: from iglu.bnet.local (c213132.adsl.hansenet.de [213.39.213.132]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCE4C6481E for ; Wed, 2 Aug 2006 00:24:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Carsten Lohrke To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 02:24:29 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <46059ce10607301928g2ddf667q326d930ffacb81b9@mail.gmail.com> <200607302252.27370.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200607302252.27370.vapier@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1185015.V05rNaJJyR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200608020224.29733.carlo@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: ce72c02a-056b-4f76-8140-8b855c6b5420 X-Archives-Hash: 2ef2b5845dcab5023fafccb17b244ebb --nextPart1185015.V05rNaJJyR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 31 July 2006 04:52, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Sunday 30 July 2006 22:28, Dan Meltzer wrote: > > 1) Users can submit patches/ideas to bugs.g.o at whatever frequency > > they desire, contributing to gentoo casually. > > load up your browser and check out how many bugs are assigned > to 'maintainer-wanted@gentoo.org' This isn't the problem. We'll never can maintain all this stuff - given the= =20 number of people we're. We need more devs - just to clean up the current tr= ee=20 and maintain it properly at it's current size one- or two hundred (having=20 fluctuation in mind) more guys wouldn't harm. The problem is more that we=20 have devs who constantly add (arbitrary) stuff to the tree, instead cleanin= g=20 out and caring for unmaintained stuff, before adding something new. > opening a bug, putting together an ebuild/patches/etc..., and then watchi= ng > it sit there and bitrot for weeks, months, and in the extreme case years > certainly is anything but encouraging > > especially considering that by the time a developer gets an interest in t= he > posted ebuild, the ebuild/patches/etc... are now bitrotted and need just = as > much work to get them up and working with the latest release This is still a community distro. That means we need people who want to bec= ome=20 become devs to maintain more. That simple. Surise won't help in this regard= =2E=20 It's just an extended repository for lazy people, who don't care for securi= ty=20 with the side effect of increased bug spam. > plus the timeframe from saying "hey i'd like to develop" to actually > getting your own commit access is heftier than many would like to underta= ke > ... Is it? I got new devs on board within a few weeks. It could always be bette= r,=20 but I think that's reasonable. Do you have numbers? Has devrel a statistic?= =20 In my experience it's more that a lot of people moan, but don't want to=20 become active. Carsten --nextPart1185015.V05rNaJJyR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEz/C9VwbzmvGLSW8RAl8nAJ9uOVhn3T24xM8rpCMDmalRhQjaUwCeLJob UvL2x/YD+ngEssQ9kL6W+zU= =X4W1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1185015.V05rNaJJyR-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list