From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-dev+bounces-15378-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@gentoo.org>) id 1G7RcQ-0006mh-Hf for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:51:14 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V6oCID021979; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:50:12 GMT Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V6m9va012152 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:48:10 GMT Received: from [172.23.170.142] (helo=anti-virus02-09) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7RZS-0007ZX-0f for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:48:10 +0100 Received: from [82.41.57.20] (helo=snowdrop.home) by asmtp-out1.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G7RZN-0004jU-VX for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:48:06 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:47:51 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation) Message-ID: <20060731074751.10fb47d2@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <1154327861.10141.24.camel@localhost> References: <eabcs0$j25$1@sea.gmane.org> <200607301751.14157.vapier@gentoo.org> <20060730230757.5c17c0e9@snowdrop.home> <200607302219.56872.vapier@gentoo.org> <46059ce10607301928g2ddf667q326d930ffacb81b9@mail.gmail.com> <1154313772.11516.7.camel@localhost> <20060731035316.74ba21ed@snowdrop.home> <1154322337.11516.34.camel@localhost> <20060731063003.2a5f018a@snowdrop.home> <1154324322.10141.6.camel@localhost> <20060731065347.0bf73f47@snowdrop.home> <1154327861.10141.24.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: a9414970-f6f5-446d-9bc0-884f6314945a X-Archives-Hash: a5acd38db48604f5b316786caee326a6 On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:37:41 -0400 Seemant Kulleen <seemant@gentoo.org> wrote: | > They're not relevant to this discussion. We're not discussing what | > the right solution is, we're discussing why Sunrise is the wrong | > solution. There's a hell of a difference -- as an illustration, | > most people could tell you why giving everybody nukes is the wrong | > way to get peace in the middle east, but very few could tell you | > what the right way is... | > | | Yes they are. You obviously didn't read the questions. I'll paste: | OK, let's start with: what exactly is the problem? What is the correct | way to represent it? After that please explain how you came to see | sunrise as the wrong solution to that problem. | | Note, that nowhere did I aske what the right solution is. Please be | so kind as to actually *read* what others are saying to you, instead | of presuming. Knowing what the problem is is part of making the solution. The problem is not that users can't push arbitrary content into a centralised official repository with no oversight from the herds appropriate for said content quickly enough. I didn't claim to know exactly what the real problem is, merely that it's not what's being solved here. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list