From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G7Pk0-0007H2-Qn for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:50:57 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k6V4nWLB029062; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:49:32 GMT Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6V4kHfE017407 for ; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:46:18 GMT Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1G7NuB-0006hb-0P for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:53:19 +0100 Received: from [82.41.57.20] (helo=snowdrop.home) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1G7NuA-00020I-GN for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:53:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:53:16 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Message-ID: <20060731035316.74ba21ed@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <1154313772.11516.7.camel@localhost> References: <200607301751.14157.vapier@gentoo.org> <20060730230757.5c17c0e9@snowdrop.home> <200607302219.56872.vapier@gentoo.org> <46059ce10607301928g2ddf667q326d930ffacb81b9@mail.gmail.com> <1154313772.11516.7.camel@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.20; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b0b82e0d-a5aa-4be4-a1ad-f02fc9ae6cfc X-Archives-Hash: d0fe38f258209fc48eeef435f283a329 On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:42:52 -0400 Seemant Kulleen wrote: | What, honestly, are people worried about with Sunrise? Partly, the part where it's run by people who have little clue about ebuild development or QA, who will be taking code from people who have little clue about ebuild development or QA and giving it to other people who have little clue about ebuild development or QA. Partly, the way it's bypassing the normal herd system and allowing unqualified developers to push code related to things they don't understand. Partly, the way it's being pushed through without proper discussion and without following the proper processes that're used to reduce the risk of major screwup. Sunrise is the wrong solution to a misrepresented problem being run by the wrong people. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list