From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed)
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:19:56 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607302219.56872.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060730230757.5c17c0e9@snowdrop.home>
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On Sunday 30 July 2006 18:07, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Personally I'd expect the council to block the thing permanently.
hard to address any sort of concerns here, so i guess i'll just regurgitate
the council log to you
it's hard for users to get involved in our development process ... i imagine
some consider that a feature, but it leaves a large portion of our community
out in the cold
sunrise is attempting to fill that gap via some controversial methods ... in
review, we deemed that the many concerns raised were pretty much addressed
and any more requests for criticism and useful critiques either went
unanswered or people piped up saying that they were happy with the latest
state
i (nor anyone else) cannot say whether this venture will succeed, only time
will prove out the project ... sitting around and clamoring for more openness
while killing every attempt at it gets us nowhere
we take a risk with this project (like every single other project) ... if
sunrise turns out to suck and cause problems, then we kill it, no big deal
-mike
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-31 2:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 115+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-27 21:58 [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-27 22:21 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-27 22:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stefan Schweizer
2006-07-28 9:36 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:54 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:47 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-30 22:58 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-07-31 2:00 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31 7:41 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-07-31 10:35 ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-31 2:21 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:10 ` Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-27 23:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 6:31 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Josh Saddler
2006-07-28 7:34 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 9:37 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Christel Dahlskjaer
[not found] ` <1154079324.8825.54.camel@lycan.lan>
2006-07-28 10:02 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2006-07-28 10:37 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-30 21:51 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-30 22:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 2:19 ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2006-07-31 2:28 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-07-31 2:42 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 2:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 5:05 ` [gentoo-dev] Project Sunrise resumed again (was Resignation) Seemant Kulleen
[not found] ` <20060731063003.2a5f018a@snowdrop.home>
2006-07-31 5:38 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 5:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 6:09 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 6:37 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 6:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 7:13 ` Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31 8:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 13:54 ` Mike Kelly
2006-08-02 14:53 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02 0:24 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 0:41 ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02 0:49 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 1:39 ` Brian Harring
2006-08-02 9:21 ` Thierry Carrez
2006-08-02 9:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 9:41 ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-08-02 9:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 10:23 ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-02 10:19 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 11:50 ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 11:51 ` Jochen Maes
2006-08-02 12:19 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-08-02 19:49 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 15:56 ` Alec Warner
2006-08-02 20:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-08-02 21:30 ` Jakub Moc
2006-08-02 18:05 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03 2:56 ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03 3:09 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03 3:27 ` Lance Albertson
2006-08-03 4:11 ` Brian Harring
2006-08-03 5:22 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-08-03 9:46 ` Roy Bamford
2006-08-03 10:11 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03 11:00 ` Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-03 16:21 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-03 17:53 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-07-31 2:52 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-08-02 0:24 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 13:46 ` Chris Bainbridge
2006-08-02 14:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-02 14:34 ` Roy Marples
2006-08-02 19:53 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-08-02 20:04 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-07-31 2:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 2:50 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 3:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 3:23 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 3:32 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31 3:42 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 3:50 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2006-07-31 4:21 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 11:01 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Christian Andreetta
2006-07-31 12:53 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-03 6:49 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03 8:07 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-08-02 0:46 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-08-02 3:50 ` Richard Fish
2006-08-02 18:04 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-07-31 5:33 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Rumen Yotov
2006-07-31 3:45 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 4:20 ` Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31 4:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 4:36 ` Seemant Kulleen
2006-07-31 4:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 4:55 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Joshua Jackson
2006-07-31 13:08 ` Denis Dupeyron
2006-07-31 14:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 5:15 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Alex Tarkovsky
2006-07-31 5:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation Ryan Hill
2006-07-31 5:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 6:10 ` Ryan Hill
2006-07-31 6:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 6:33 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 8:10 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-31 8:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 10:47 ` Georgi Georgiev
2006-08-03 6:58 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-08-03 15:36 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-31 8:44 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31 9:21 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Jakub Moc
2006-07-31 9:56 ` Bryan Ãstergaard
2006-07-31 10:09 ` Jakub Moc
2006-07-31 2:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Mike Frysinger
2006-07-31 10:28 ` Roy Bamford
[not found] ` <1154340702l.9965l.0l@spike>
2006-07-31 11:01 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Giacomo Cariello
2006-07-31 12:30 ` Roy Bamford
2006-07-30 20:35 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation (was: Project Sunrise resumed) Sune Kloppenborg Jeppesen
2006-08-01 0:53 ` [gentoo-dev] Resignation Doug Goldstein
2006-08-01 8:41 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
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