From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fyxhj-0000G2-Pr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 21:17:40 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k67LFjqX032518; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:15:45 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k67LC4oS005156 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:12:05 GMT Received: from home.wh0rd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC7064729 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 21:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 32117 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2006 16:59:24 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO vapier) (192.168.0.2) by 192.168.0.1 with SMTP; 7 Jul 2006 16:59:24 -0400 From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:12:21 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <200607061252.33028@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> <200607061944.34690.vapier@gentoo.org> <20060707054615.GA3257@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <20060707054615.GA3257@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1882267.5UYsZ2aXAV"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200607071712.21536.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 4e391570-a790-4674-94d2-f5a57f0ff85d X-Archives-Hash: 2755fa04c3b458e2df9fa19389849e31 --nextPart1882267.5UYsZ2aXAV Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 07 July 2006 01:46, Harald van D=C4=B3k wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 07:44:34PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Thursday 06 July 2006 16:14, Harald van D=C4=B3k wrote: > > > Gentoo's gcc with the vanilla flag isn't the official GCC. Most patch= es > > > don't get appplied, but some do. Plus, gcc[vanilla] isn't a supported > > > compiler in Gentoo. > > > > you're just griping because i forced ssp/pie regardless of USE=3Dvanilla > > ... > > I didn't mind that you applied ssp/pie patches regardless of > USE=3Dvanilla, I did mind that you applied the stub patches with > USE=3D"nossp vanilla", and I also didn't like that this was either done=20 > accidentally but ignored when pointed out, or that this was done > deliberately with a misleading cvs log message. it was not ignored, i told you the answer was no ... i listened to your=20 request and then i evaluated the situation and deemed at the time to go wit= h=20 what we have now. see how your usage of "ignored" is incorrect here ? as Kevin pointed out, the stubs do not affect code generation so i preferre= d=20 to keep users from breaking themselves also, at the time, i told you you could easily work around the stub situati= on=20 by simply deleting them: rm /usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc/files/stubs/* and then add sys-devel/gcc/files/stubs/ to your rsync exclude list once we have 4.1.1 in stable, i'll be happy to update the eclass to not app= ly=20 the stubs when USE=3Dnossp as the majority of users will no longer be in th= e=20 situation i referred to earlier > > since gcc-4.0 and below are on the way out, i have no problem changing > > this behavior > > > > besides, since both of these technologies are in mainline gcc now, i > > really dont see how you can continue to gripe with gcc-4.1.1+ > > I don't know how much gcc-spec-env.patch can be trusted, and even if it > is 100% safe, such patches don't belong in anything that would be called > "vanilla". (I have commented on that patch long before this thread > started, so don't think I'm just looking for something to complain about > now.) you never pointed that patch out to me nor did i notice it, so i dont reall= y=20 see how you could have expected this to be fixed already i'll update cvs when i get a chance =2Dmike --nextPart1882267.5UYsZ2aXAV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUARK7ONUFjO5/oN/WBAQKuXw//dr2W5335F+E19EBHklJaYOWtsktwUIQS dvBXzwsiqJc7iLR2l3+J/JodMna78/yeqyh2ir0XyJx1/F8RAZpLPrXqSM6iflpC hfL51IYS4HMAMclnNHgfPUnHCvd2f98Ej3kxbnYKS5hDZcDssy6/+tEFVcWjy0+p FwrfVNdQHvbCRf5oSV3JJyLfvWhyXRJJLqU3nPbIjbqAiAQvbljpyVs9pqmQ2jYp uRLBnCFJfZVEPQMnGx0y/stln96fFZMhY0mcO+cGwYhz1Y21boPROVdLqRuIPFYM o/A3nzQzsTJNECNOKmpoejvJGDalTRc1jhMkqvMkJgDWeDXI8WvB3a5dPPi7nMF3 KqaoJDN/3YV08LUZfmOJAEc54Ns3qWbYQ7oin1vRoQ3/nS1S3u9qpjBgHWDMVxDX nSnJPPfo5dgBkFce+GeRcRUTSN6c8YXXK+Wq0s8iUDy2x42ZEV0sbGSHKMNirV3V 2CVe5weWX7JSJmFcio+ZcBLJnCgnGn2pq/SucWMWkTTA5qFb4TeYT7pwSf/+/43X G5XgnQ/T6E37RRol6GHXXcZCz4YnKBcvwrEloEbnf9cC+QuB7rli25yXCpp+F42G oC4vdo03JDAXvDMlUl6noV/3ZEPXxG77NyZGBHWn32yVDdRhjLho8IHGXr9LbM6z 0X3DO7RrKkU= =vfU/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1882267.5UYsZ2aXAV-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list