From: "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò" <flameeyes@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags
Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 16:03:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200607071603.30358@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1152280418.9384.50.camel@lycan.lan>
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On Friday 07 July 2006 15:53, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> Check Chris Gianelloni's mail just now. For some compilers with some
> -march's on x86 it did not explicitly turn on some features (or maybe
> not to such a high extend).
Uh no, I think he meant that for some borderline processors there's not
a -march value, like for Athlon64 Revision D, that has sse3 support. In those
cases you have to use -msse3 or whatever else to tell the compiler what to
generate.
> So where say CFLAGS="-march=pentium3" would
> work, CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -msse" would fail to build, or generate
> bad code (segfaulting binaries).
This might have been true with _older_ GCC, but all the series 3.3, 3.4, 4.0
and 4.1 behaves correctly: -march=pentium3 implies -msse without doubt.
What you might incorrectly remember is -mfpmath=sse that is totally another
thing, and dies usually on bad code anyway, and it's enabled by default on
64-bit CPUs just because on there the 80-bit limit for doubles is not
pertinent anymore.
I might seem an idiot, but I have enough experience to know what I'm talking
about. Seems instead that other people confuse SEGFAULT with SIGILL and -msse
with -mfpmath=sse (or simply remember just what happened with GCC 3.2).
A little note here: tools improve. GCC 2.95 was a joke, GCC 3.0, 3.1 were
almost unusable, 3.2 started to be usable but full of problems, 3.3/3.4
series improved, drastically.
Stuff like visibility is badly broken up to 4.0, but works fine on 4.1. You
cannot think that a flag or a support will always be broken because a release
had it broken, you have to watch what you're doing to do it correctly.
--
Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/
Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE
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Thread overview: 136+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-06 10:52 [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 11:00 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-07-06 11:23 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-25 12:05 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-06 11:03 ` Ioannis Aslanidis
2006-07-06 11:40 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-07-06 11:48 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 11:58 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-07-06 12:21 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 19:04 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-07 0:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-07 0:57 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-07 1:19 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-06 15:41 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-06 15:55 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-07-06 19:06 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-06 19:42 ` Gentoo vs GNU toolchain (was Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags) Kevin F. Quinn
2006-07-06 19:55 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-06 20:03 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-07-06 20:14 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-06 23:44 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-07 5:46 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-07 14:00 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-07-07 16:53 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-07 17:55 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-07 18:40 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-07 19:57 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-07 21:09 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-08 11:24 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-07 20:18 ` Tushar Teredesai
2006-07-08 11:22 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-07 20:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-07 21:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-07 21:53 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-07 22:13 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-07 23:04 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-07 23:50 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-08 6:20 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-08 9:27 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-08 11:51 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-08 13:46 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-08 16:43 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-07-08 19:53 ` Jakub Moc
2006-07-08 13:51 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-06 23:42 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-06 19:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 20:27 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-07-06 23:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-25 12:14 ` [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-25 17:07 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-08-03 0:38 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-25 12:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-06 12:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 12:29 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 12:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 13:35 ` Olivier Crête
2006-07-06 14:03 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-06 14:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 15:09 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-06 15:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 15:39 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-07 0:50 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-07 0:58 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-07 1:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-07 2:28 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-07 12:34 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-07 13:08 ` Graham Murray
2006-07-07 13:21 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-07 13:53 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-07 14:03 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò [this message]
2006-07-07 15:31 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-07 17:22 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-07 18:34 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-07-06 15:13 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-07-25 12:40 ` Enrico Weigelt
2006-07-06 16:43 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 17:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 18:07 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 18:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 18:42 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 19:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 20:02 ` Curtis Napier
2006-07-06 20:13 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 20:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 20:46 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 20:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 21:12 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 21:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 21:31 ` Joshua Jackson
2006-07-06 21:45 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 22:09 ` Jory A. Pratt
2006-07-06 22:28 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-07-06 23:10 ` Curtis Napier
2006-07-06 21:46 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-07-06 21:45 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 23:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-06 23:39 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 23:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-07 0:08 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-07 0:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-07 12:24 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-07 12:31 ` Brian Harring
2006-07-07 12:50 ` Martin Schlemmer
2006-07-07 0:01 ` Luca Barbato
2006-07-07 0:11 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-07 0:31 ` Luca Barbato
2006-07-07 13:27 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-07-07 13:36 ` Mike Doty
2006-07-07 16:14 ` [gentoo-dev] CPU subprofiles (was: Replacing cpu-feature USE flags) Ciaran McCreesh
2006-07-07 16:20 ` [gentoo-dev] CPU subprofiles Mike Doty
2006-07-07 21:46 ` [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags Roy Bamford
2006-07-06 21:10 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-07-06 21:12 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-07 11:13 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-07 13:44 ` Marius Mauch
2006-07-07 14:03 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-07 17:53 ` Richard Fish
2006-07-07 0:20 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-07-07 0:27 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 15:33 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-06 16:44 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 16:58 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-06 17:09 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 17:33 ` Ned Ludd
2006-07-06 18:08 ` Luca Barbato
2006-07-06 12:35 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-07-06 12:44 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 13:17 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-07-06 16:02 ` Luca Barbato
2006-07-06 16:46 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-07-06 16:27 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-07-06 18:02 ` Luca Barbato
2006-07-06 22:46 ` Luca Barbato
2006-07-07 11:36 ` Simon Stelling
2006-07-07 12:18 ` Luca Barbato
2006-07-06 23:35 ` Richard Fish
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