From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fyqj1-000184-W6 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:50:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k67DmAs8029826; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 13:48:10 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k67DhCNJ013660 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 13:43:13 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024766476E for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 13:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09626-18 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 13:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.183]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A445D6476B for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 13:43:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.82.169.8] (helo=sven.genone.homeip.net) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu1) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0MKwpI-1Fyqbo1xAp-0002St; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 15:43:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 15:44:50 +0200 From: Marius Mauch To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags Message-ID: <20060707154450.5a938644@sven.genone.homeip.net> In-Reply-To: <44AE41C5.9000304@gentoo.org> References: <200607061252.33028@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> <200607062007.00422@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> <20060706192932.23ec087a@snowdrop.home> <200607062042.27919@enterprise.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org> <20060706200115.361256b4@snowdrop.home> <44AD6C60.9050406@gentoo.org> <44AE41C5.9000304@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.8.19; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Sig_sBz8Ik4r4Tbr.eTFGSW0y23; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:7e6c91d1b14dbccceb2f2166522fa0f6 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.213 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.251, BAYES_00=-2.599, FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.135] X-Spam-Score: -2.213 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 27e73e34-b339-4385-a999-3596a51f2a9b X-Archives-Hash: 64e47cc5dc5a1256c3b0f935d80b1213 --Sig_sBz8Ik4r4Tbr.eTFGSW0y23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 07 Jul 2006 13:13:09 +0200 Simon Stelling wrote: > Curtis Napier wrote: > > I could find a million threads in the forums supporting what Ciaran > > is saying here. We have been told over and over and over until my > > head feels bashed in that MMX/SSE, etc... are NOT TO BE PUT IN > > CFLAGS!! THAT IS WHAT USE FLAGS ARE FOR!!!! > >=20 > > Every developer who has ever commented on one of these threads has > > always agreed with that. Put it in USE not CLFAGS. >=20 > That's because CFLAGS=3D"-msse" currently doesn't do what the user > would think it does. Which is the real problem, which we're solving > with the change Diego suggested. Huh? What do you assume users think that CFLAGS=3D-msse does? I know some people get confused by the mmx/sse/whatever use flags, but I've never seen anybody assuming that CFLAGS determine if a patch should be applied/configure switch enabled. (I'm not arguing about the proposal itself here, just this argument is bullshit) Marius --=20 Public Key at http://www.genone.de/info/gpg-key.pub In the beginning, there was nothing. And God said, 'Let there be Light.' And there was still nothing, but you could see a bit better. --Sig_sBz8Ik4r4Tbr.eTFGSW0y23 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFErmVVWzrL1pM7SNcRAlQ7AKCAWX1WVL+AZkwhF443YbOzfUOtpQCfe+n/ SLcH8gwBdleIbsFVTcrbHEk= =caNC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_sBz8Ik4r4Tbr.eTFGSW0y23-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list