From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FxNdn-0003vN-Bv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 03 Jul 2006 12:35:04 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with SMTP id k63CXk7k022719; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:33:46 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.7/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k63CUopI012518 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:30:51 GMT Received: from home.wh0rd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C24A6432D for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 12:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27479 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2006 08:19:31 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO vapier) (192.168.0.2) by 192.168.0.1 with SMTP; 3 Jul 2006 08:19:31 -0400 From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:30:42 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.3 References: <20060701112900.76A1A647BA@smtp.gentoo.org> <200607021526.37026.vapier@gentoo.org> <1151928418.9102.25.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> In-Reply-To: <1151928418.9102.25.camel@vertigo.twi-31o2.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3191053.90TQ44YV2Z"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200607030830.42438.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: f4f3199b-53f4-4d16-9227-d9cabee3b233 X-Archives-Hash: ed236b4ed47628d278af1942189b4d62 --nextPart3191053.90TQ44YV2Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 03 July 2006 08:06, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > On Sun, 2006-07-02 at 15:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > What has the existence of Sunrise done for Gentoo? What new packages > > > are now in the tree because of it? What new developers have been > > > recruited because of it? What packages that were previously without > > > maintainers in the tree have found maintainers due to Sunrise? > > > > why do any of these matter at this point of time ? you cant kill a > > project for failing to accomplish any of its goals when it hasnt been > > given real time yet to actually accomplish them > > Nor was I trying to in any way. Instead, I don't see any point in > discussing something that still needs time to mature. The project > hasn't been around long enough to accomplish anything, so again, what is > there to discuss? the project was suspended because developers were severely unhappy with it the issues are whether said developers feel all of their grievances have be= en=20 addressed ... so far it would appear so debating whether the project has/is will accomplish things is out of scope/= off=20 topic =2Dmike --nextPart3191053.90TQ44YV2Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUARKkN8kFjO5/oN/WBAQK32Q/+J5ochLtV38qgVnrS7RkmAstLAmyC1bVv g86Fy0H7FfIn3dSf6jo2Kvl6DJ0dKBWIgdTXYnsFsqDiF4jXsgS9LS75m1FlikhS OX5/UtipeFLZUO3rCd0Prd+YxlAdPlsq6yyi3bEmCAOY+L2Xs9FkHBsih/1388Z9 b9KnBhzCkLst/Dh2Y1TgY02yVZoTbk013iWNCEV8gJXmKLkEwEUk8FR/xzG0L5Zk 1gGqN55Z4/BVYFafIRXxvO+DvTNOVnhV1Nan4pmh9i/2CLGlBAG9nRupWoxyjtvq /+4xnSYbJjaASQlTAL4TSndI2NeIqsM2kLi3Hglr3Q4OKpDGos1/JHBtBJc7Y0JC cU3oM97jW0kSJfpxvvJ9KHdKHdxPPFTueTsPE/R19sbXR9JSmNZaqccD5PtzTVEW wP0snvzi0+zICIXLTC+15GXcWnDreytnzYAzk96jj9oPapLn4a9zBxoY4CpzE9E8 J5tYM9+hYdvTGX7QqZGMO95a6KEEGNX8lH6q7xARyaUDFUXHaAtacihUa8BEebTs EpxoUYqqYUe2Vp2rc1W0yR6lbeKJURtYmdR6FrMT2taw/ZaZpaN8xqhURPf6SK7U /l99SN5xEZqgXMECPlzI+T7k7EwnBby/R0E6vfUBGOI80Enf+Z1miK+lan0phtKC fwz21PVEgDw= =Qe/i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3191053.90TQ44YV2Z-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list