[gentoo-dev] Resignation

[gentoo-dev] Resignation

[Jory A. Pratt]

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As most are aware I was only active dev in mozilla herd. I have decided
that it is time to leave gentoo, which leaves herd unmaintained.
Security team can do as they wish, they do not take the user to mind
when they want to make hasty decision, without first attempting to work
the herd to resolve a security issue that is in the tree. Our users have
depreciated over the last year due to devs and just the direction gentoo
has decided to go so I make the move with them.

Good luck to everyone and were ever there ventures might take them..

Later
Jory

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

[Joshua Jackson]

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Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, Im gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust


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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Jory A. Pratt]

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Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> Hi Jory,
> 
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 09:29:51PM -0500, Jory A. Pratt wrote:
>> Security team can do as they wish, they do not take the user to mind
>> when they want to make hasty decision, without first attempting to
>> work the herd to resolve a security issue that is in the tree.
> 
> Care to elaborate on that?
> 
> Regards,
> Brix

As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls
from certain people, I will retract my resignation for the final time.

I will be taking a few days away from my packages for personal time, I
will still be available on irc if it is urgent.

Solar:
	"It's even bigger of a shame to see you doing it while making snide
remarks about making hasty decisions when you are walking out leaving a
herd and users high and dry. It's hard for me to respect you for doing
that."

Your right my decision is wrong, the users are the ones I care about
most, my apology to your especially

Sorry to everyone else for letting the project itself down with my hasty
decision of resigning last night.

Jory


P.S
	I will not leave you all the users with noone to maintain the packages
that 98% of you all depend on when it comes to a browser.


.

	
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Ned Ludd]

On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 10:33 -0500, Jory A. Pratt wrote:

[snip]

> P.S
> 	I will not leave you all the users with noone to maintain the packages
> that 98% of you all depend on when it comes to a browser.

Thanks.. 

/me guesses you had a few brews when you wrote said mail.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Ciaran McCreesh]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:33:58 -0500 "Jory A. Pratt" <anarchy@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| Sorry to everyone else for letting the project itself down with my
| hasty decision of resigning last night.

Oh, I'm sure everyone's used to it by now.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Jory A. Pratt <anarchy@gentoo.org> schrieb:

Hi,

<snip>

> As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls
> from certain people, I will retract my resignation for the final time.

I'm fairly new to Gentoo, but I'd like to help.
So, what shall I do ?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Andrej Kacian]

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On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:07:45 +0200
Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:

> > As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls
> > from certain people, I will retract my resignation for the final time.
> 
> I'm fairly new to Gentoo, but I'd like to help.
> So, what shall I do ?

You can start by not hijacking mailing list threads. Or am I the only one
failing to see how is this connected to Jory's (retracted) resignation ?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Andrej Kacian <ticho@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:07:45 +0200
> Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> 
> > > As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls
> > > from certain people, I will retract my resignation for the final time.
> > 
> > I'm fairly new to Gentoo, but I'd like to help.
> > So, what shall I do ?
> 
> You can start by not hijacking mailing list threads. Or am I the only one
> failing to see how is this connected to Jory's (retracted) resignation ?

Perhaps there's some misunderstanding ?
(I have to admit, I didn't read all this traffic here, so maybe 
I missed something ...)

As far as I understood the situation:

* He's frustrated about several things (I missed the details), 
  so doesn't like to maintain the mozilla herd anylonger and is 
  going to leave -dev.
   
* Now several people convinced him to stay and continue his 
  work here.
  
Now me: 

* I'm offering my help. 

But: 

* I'm fairly new here and not familar with the development and
  qm process yet, so I need some assistance.


Anything still onclear on my last posting ?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Tuesday 27 June 2006 10:03, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> * I'm fairly new here and not familar with the development and
>   qm process yet, so I need some assistance.

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Andrej Kacian]

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On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:03:32 +0200
Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:

> But: 
> 
> * I'm fairly new here and not familar with the development and
>   qm process yet, so I need some assistance.
> 
> 
> Anything still onclear on my last posting ?

My apologies, Enrico, for snapping out on you.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Enrico Weigelt]

* Andrej Kacian <ticho@gentoo.org> schrieb:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:03:32 +0200
> Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> 
> > But: 
> > 
> > * I'm fairly new here and not familar with the development and
> >   qm process yet, so I need some assistance.
> > 
> > 
> > Anything still onclear on my last posting ?
> 
> My apologies, Enrico, for snapping out on you.

Such things may happen in the summer heat ;-)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Mike Frysinger]

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On Tuesday 27 June 2006 09:21, Andrej Kacian wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:07:45 +0200
>
> Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> > > As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls
> > > from certain people, I will retract my resignation for the final time.
> >
> > I'm fairly new to Gentoo, but I'd like to help.
> > So, what shall I do ?
>
> You can start by not hijacking mailing list threads. Or am I the only one
> failing to see how is this connected to Jory's (retracted) resignation ?

you cant blame him for seeing part of a thread that was forwarded out

and really, his reply makes sense
-mike

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[John Mylchreest]

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On Tue, Jun 27, 2006 at 03:21:49PM +0200, Andrej Kacian <ticho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 13:07:45 +0200
> Enrico Weigelt <weigelt@metux.de> wrote:
> 
> > > As I have been swamped with emails, private messages and phone calls
> > > from certain people, I will retract my resignation for the final time.
> > 
> > I'm fairly new to Gentoo, but I'd like to help.
> > So, what shall I do ?
> 
> You can start by not hijacking mailing list threads. Or am I the only one
> failing to see how is this connected to Jory's (retracted) resignation ?

Having not yet read the rest of this thread I'm sorry if this is going to 
repeat anything else thats being said, however...

This is a prime example of one of the reasons which is making people
leave gentoo, either as a developer or as a user. Having someone email
to show their appreciation for peoples work and equally as important to
also be willing to commit their own time to help as well being shot down
with such an ignorant comment is upsetting to say the least.

I suggest the next time someone wants to offer their help you think
twice before you flame for off-topic. However, on that note...

Enrico, 

Please find some reading on the subject here:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2

If you need any further help please feel free to join IRC and ask in
#gentoo-userrel

Best Regards,
John

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Brian Harring wrote:
> Hola all.
> 
> Been an interesting two some years, but have decided it's time for me 
> to turn in my resignation and wander on to things outside of gentoo.
> 
> If you need to track me down, I'll be checking ferringb@gmail.com .
> 
> So... yeah, so long and thanks for all the fish :)

Best of luck in your future endeavors. Don't think this gets you out of
hanging out with me while you're in Oregon!

Now you only need to find something to do with all the spare time you've
just freed up ...

Thanks,
Donnie



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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Duncan]

Donnie Berkholz posted <44056E87.2080202@gentoo.org>, excerpted below,  on
Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:51:03 -0800:

> Brian Harring wrote:
>> 
>> Been an interesting two some years, but have decided it's time for me 
>> to turn in my resignation and wander on to things outside of gentoo.
>> 
>> If you need to track me down, I'll be checking ferringb@gmail.com .
>> 
>> So... yeah, so long and thanks for all the fish :)
> 
> Best of luck in your future endeavors. Don't think this gets you out of
> hanging out with me while you're in Oregon!

Seeing this news makes me very sad, as ferringb was a name I had
associated with trust and integrity of opinion and developer skills. 
It's certainly a loss for Gentoo, and as Gentoo is now a part of me, a
loss I'll feel personally, as well, but unfortunately, those times do come.

As with Donnie and the others, only user to dev, I wish you well.  May our
paths meet again!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Colin Kingsley]

Duncan wrote:
> Seeing this news makes me very sad, as ferringb was a name I had
> associated with trust and integrity of opinion and developer skills. 
> It's certainly a loss for Gentoo, and as Gentoo is now a part of me, a
> loss I'll feel personally, as well, but unfortunately, those times do come.
> 
> As with Donnie and the others, only user to dev, I wish you well.  May our
> paths meet again!
> 

Wow, Duncan is so sad he only wrote one paragraph!  Seriously man, you 
will be missed.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Stuart Herbert]

On 3/1/06, Donnie Berkholz <spyderous@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Brian Harring wrote:
> > Hola all.
> >
> > Been an interesting two some years, but have decided it's time for me
> > to turn in my resignation and wander on to things outside of gentoo.
> >
> > If you need to track me down, I'll be checking ferringb@gmail.com .
> >
> > So... yeah, so long and thanks for all the fish :)

Damn shame to see you go.  You were one of the people who made it a
pleasure to work on Gentoo.

Best regards,
Stu

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[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] Resignation

[Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò]

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On Wednesday 01 March 2006 10:37, Brian Harring wrote:
> Been an interesting two some years, but have decided it's time for me
> to turn in my resignation and wander on to things outside of gentoo.
I'm a bit sad hearing that, as it's always sad to hear that a good fellow dev 
goes away... but Donnie is right, you're freeing up quite a bit of time ;)
Good luck whatever you'll want to do :)

Now, I really need to find a new victim for BSD portage changes, too...

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