From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FpCd2-0003tA-2T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:12:28 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k5AN4m1W014276; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:04:48 GMT Received: from smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.6]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k5AMxLCH017289 for ; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:59:22 GMT Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FpCQI-00046l-3r for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:59:20 +0100 Received: from [82.41.57.20] (helo=snowdrop.home) by asmtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FpCQH-0001Xt-K9 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:59:17 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2006 23:59:15 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] July Council Meeting: Requested Agenda Item Message-ID: <20060610235915.629bad8a@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <448AA187.8020207@gentoo.org> References: <1149906516.4234.91.camel@gaspode> <448AA187.8020207@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.3.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.8.18; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 2dfbc89d-aab1-4816-956a-255d145fc6b1 X-Archives-Hash: 4a07fb357835abd4a1502c4939d100d1 On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:40:07 +0100 Daniel Drake wrote: | Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: | > I would like to ask that the Council discuss the current state and | > future of the GWN at their next meeting. | | This is an open project. The solution to the problems you raise is | incredibly simple: Contribute on a regular basis, or find other | people who will do so. Pay attention to the original email. One of the problems Christel mentioned was that contributions were being deliberately distorted by the GWN editors. Finding more contributors won't help with that problem; only replacing or fixing the editors will. | Writing hugely demotivating emails, scaring away existing | contributors, and wasting the council's time will not help at all. How motivating would you say it is to have your words twisted by the GWN staff when you do try to contribute? How motivating would you say it is to watch people try to brush genuine problems under the carpet and attack anyone who points them out? -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list