From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:39:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200605182239.20490.pauldv@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060518211908.022c95b4@snowdrop.home>
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On Thursday 18 May 2006 22:19, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 12:41:47 -0700 Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
> | Please talk to the OSX folk- they would disagree, since
> | collision-protect was added to keep gentoo-osx from stomping on the
> | primary installation (iow, to keep the secondary from acting like it
> | was primary). Since you also spent a lot of time 'contributing' to
> | prefix, I'd expect you'd understand the primary vs secondary role
> | also (same with since you've ranted at autopackage).
>
> Except that by that definition, Paludis *is* a primary package manager.
It is capable of being a primary package manager. On gentoo it is not the
primary package manager as that requires a council decision. Such a decision
would amount to deprecating portage.
>
> | What he is driving it at is that either paludis is an alternative
> | (yet on disk compatible) primary, or it's a secondary- you keep
> | debating the compatibility angle, thus the logical conclussion is
> | that it's a secondary.
>
> We're an alternative, not entirely on disc compatible primary.
This means that you could choose to meet the requirements that I am currently
writing down in GLEP shape for package managers that desire to replace
portage as the primary package manager. Those requirements can be met, but
would limit the freedom choise of implementation of the package manager.
> Design choice. We chose not to continue with previous design mistakes
> that exist only because of limitations in Portage's dep resolver where
> we can do so without requiring ebuild changes.
This is a valid design choise. It does however mean that paludis perhaps can
not meet the requirements for being a replacement for portage as gentoo
primary package manager.
Paul
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2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
[not found] ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17 0:04 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28 3:54 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39 ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:03 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 5:16 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
[not found] ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:19 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 7:30 ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17 7:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:23 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19 7:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 7:33 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze [this message]
2006-05-18 20:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10 ` Brian Harring
[not found] ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17 ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
[not found] ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 9:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26 ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:06 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 9:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:55 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-05-17 20:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:39 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 20:49 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-05-17 20:56 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:32 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 23:07 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 10:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:47 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34 ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 2:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-17 23:23 ` Ryan Phillips
2006-05-18 4:34 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-18 7:19 ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 12:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 13:58 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 17:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:00 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 16:44 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-18 7:21 ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 10:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 10:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 12:14 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:31 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 14:02 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:12 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 11:22 ` Roy Bamford
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