From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FgpAx-00067f-HK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:32:51 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4IKShk0025714; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:28:43 GMT Received: from smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.8]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4IKJV3a029703 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:19:31 GMT Received: from [172.23.170.138] (helo=anti-virus01-09) by smtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Fgoy3-00036w-5s for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:19:31 +0100 Received: from [213.121.151.206] (helo=snowdrop.home) by asmtp-out5.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Fgoy2-00062a-D0 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 21:19:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:19:08 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Message-ID: <20060518211908.022c95b4@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20060518194147.GC3858@nightcrawler> References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <200605181654.59265.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20060518171135.62fa8fac@snowdrop.home> <200605182018.24694.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20060518193327.49938d10@snowdrop.home> <20060518194147.GC3858@nightcrawler> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: edb46bfd-47b5-4804-8b75-1154c0442adb X-Archives-Hash: 7cddd15b3618a0148f7bd02f56585ad6 On Thu, 18 May 2006 12:41:47 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: | Please talk to the OSX folk- they would disagree, since | collision-protect was added to keep gentoo-osx from stomping on the | primary installation (iow, to keep the secondary from acting like it | was primary). Since you also spent a lot of time 'contributing' to | prefix, I'd expect you'd understand the primary vs secondary role | also (same with since you've ranted at autopackage). Except that by that definition, Paludis *is* a primary package manager. | What he is driving it at is that either paludis is an alternative | (yet on disk compatible) primary, or it's a secondary- you keep | debating the compatibility angle, thus the logical conclussion is | that it's a secondary. We're an alternative, not entirely on disc compatible primary. | Re: vdb, the virtuals hack you've slipped in is paludis choice- you | design your manager properly, the vdb backend can be swapped out. In | other words, collect virtuals on the fly (ala portage/preexisting vdb | compatible), or convert that backend to a format that has the | virtuals flattened. | | Bluntly, if I can do it in pkgcore, you ought to be able to do it in | paludis. Design choice. We chose not to continue with previous design mistakes that exist only because of limitations in Portage's dep resolver where we can do so without requiring ebuild changes. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list