From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fgmwm-00005J-1A for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 18:10:04 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4II6tE2013556; Thu, 18 May 2006 18:06:55 GMT Received: from psmtp01.wxs.nl (psmtp01-real.wxs.nl [195.121.247.14]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4II0Sug032451 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 18:00:28 GMT Received: from hex.local.devrieze.net (ip5457f303.direct-adsl.nl [84.87.243.3]) by psmtp01.wxs.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4II0Pni027037 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 20:00:28 +0200 From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:00:31 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <200605181526.06635.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20060518172659.5cc54cf1@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20060518172659.5cc54cf1@snowdrop.home> X-Face: #Lb+'V@sGJ;ptgo5}V"W+5OCoo{LZv;bh,s,`WKLi/J)ed1_$0;6X<=?utf-8?q?700LVV/=3BLqPhiDP=5E=0A=09=27f=5Dfnv?=@%6M8\'HR1t=aFx;ePfp{ZQoBe+e)JOQ8T5*(_;mHY+cltLGq<;@$Y,=?utf-8?q?O=5C=24=0A=09Tm=23G6M?=,g![Q62J{na*S9d;R[^8pc%u\aiLqU@`kJtYl"^6pxdW Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2099300.B4u8SfcMi3"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605182000.31626.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: cc97bba9-bae1-4573-b27a-e75f871cb3a8 X-Archives-Hash: ed39635b265df658624602ad4bc12eba --nextPart2099300.B4u8SfcMi3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 18 May 2006 18:26, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:26:06 +0200 Paul de Vrieze > > wrote: > | Then copy the bloody profile, or temporarilly add some magic in > | paludis that ignores portage and python deps. Not that hard to do. > | While not so beautiful it can easilly be removed at a later stage. > > That removes valid dependencies. Just remove it from the paludis system set. Is it that hard? > | How far does that spread? Is this only for packages merged by > | paludis, or does it spread? And what reasons are there for paludis > | not to have a vdb format that will not confuse portage. > > Anything merged by Paludis may have a VDB entry that will confuse > Portage. This is necessary for two reasons. Firstly, we have some > features that Portage doesn't. Secondly, the VDB entries generated by > Portage under certain circumstances (symlink/dir merge mismatches) are > incomplete and incorrect, and Portage's unmerge code will falsely > remove and falsely leave behind garbage when this happens, and we see > no reason to emulate this bug. Then do it correct in a way that portage can still live with it. Otherwise= =20 write a portage patch so that it can live with it. > Can you install Portage 2.0 and Portage 2.1 in parallel? These are versions of the same official package manager. A different=20 situation. > > | > > 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? > | > > | > Doubtful, barring some rather drastic changes in Gentoo and the way > | > its projects are handled. > | > | So you are asking to go towards replacing portage with a package > | manager that is not under gentoo control? > > What about Portage is under Gentoo control? Were Portage under Gentoo > control, it would have the features that Gentoo developers require by > now. Like, say, :slot deps. Similarly, Gentoo has no problem with bash, > despite it not being a Gentoo project... Bash is not the gentoo package manager. If the council decided to tomorrow,= it=20 could revert portage releases, freeze portage releases, lock access to=20 portage etc. It is under gentoo control. Paul =2D-=20 Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net --nextPart2099300.B4u8SfcMi3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEbLY/bKx5DBjWFdsRAohXAJ9KyxAWXpt4/kkCDzuZo7qHdlcSqACgsNi1 0Z4NqWl6XviSEGrKtk0WzOs= =MF4n -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2099300.B4u8SfcMi3-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list