From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fgnkd-0004cX-Ra for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 19:01:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4IJ0nSm006078; Thu, 18 May 2006 19:00:49 GMT Received: from smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.198.203]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4IIt5EA005789 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 18:55:05 GMT Received: (qmail 39285 invoked from network); 18 May 2006 18:55:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.grantgoodyear.org) (s?robertson@sbcglobal.net@67.67.81.246 with plain) by smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 May 2006 18:55:03 -0000 Received: from localhost (dst [192.168.1.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by server.grantgoodyear.org (8.13.6/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k4IIt3Bm018981 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:55:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:55:03 -0500 From: Grant Goodyear To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Message-ID: <20060518185503.GA31798@dst.grantgoodyear.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <20060518171416.GA7033@superlupo.rechner> <20060518190210.683a05f6@snowdrop.home> <200605182020.43640.carlo@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200605182020.43640.carlo@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) X-Archives-Salt: 54f54564-ab7e-4e0f-9ca6-e9772c05521e X-Archives-Hash: 2d27546d01696d352c58c3165742a38c Carsten Lohrke wrote: > Stop making such odd and wrong comparisons. The package manager is part of > what defines a distribution, choosing a shell is the users choice. If you > want to make the package manager matter of choice, start your own > distribution. Just because it has historically been the case that a package manager often defines a distribution, that hardly means that it must do so. (Incidentally, I think that apt-with-rpm probably broke that perception long ago.) In any event, the ultimate issue, as far as I can tell, is whether or not it makes sense to have a package manager that would need to be chosen at the point of installation, but that would use the existing tree of ebuilds just as portage does. Would that be a Gentoo system? Personally, I don't see why it wouldn't, as it doesn't seem that different from deciding at install time to choose a BSD kernel and userland. Some modifications are required to use the system successfully compared to a default Gentoo Linux installation, but the overall philosophy remains the same. Now, would it be vastly more convenient if one could switch between portage and a portage alternative with no more hassle than running some sort of "conversion" scripts? Of course, and I suspect that somebody would write such scripts even if the lead devs didn't do it themselves, but I'm not sure that the bar for acceptance needs to be that high. -g2boojum- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list