From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FglRp-0004Vk-WD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 16:34:02 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4IGWtPh007208; Thu, 18 May 2006 16:32:55 GMT Received: from smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.7]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4IGNPdM000987 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 16:23:25 GMT Received: from [172.23.170.147] (helo=anti-virus03-10) by smtp-out4.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FglHZ-0008D3-MP for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 17:23:25 +0100 Received: from [213.121.151.206] (helo=snowdrop.home) by asmtp-out3.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FglHZ-0004H9-1G for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 17:23:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:23:03 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Message-ID: <20060518172303.2087f2be@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <446C201E.3060705@gentoo.org> References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <446BABA7.3080603@gentoo.org> <20060517232345.GA48034@zeus.kimaker.com> <200605180634.42173.ian@gentoo.org> <446C201E.3060705@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: dc43bee9-6ca9-4f5e-a014-dcc5708f8ee8 X-Archives-Hash: 8891faa52084cf23726e4cca6a447f68 On Thu, 18 May 2006 09:19:58 +0200 Jochen Maes wrote: | 1) If Paludis has no business in replacing portage on systems (shame, | if it's better/faster it should) why are we having this discussion. It's a goal towards which we're working. Just as we expect that, for example, gcc 4 will someday replace gcc 3 on some archs. | I understand that you need a profile and with an overlay you need to | copy the profiles dir (the whole profiles dir) but be serious that's | only So my question would you be able to do tests without changing | the official tree by copying the profiles dir in an own overlay. That's how things are done at present. | 2) If Paludis will be installed on a system to test, and installs | packages, will portage be aware of that installation, and will it be | able to remove it (meaning Paludis changes the portage VDB correctly | when needed). (i've seen you explain that Paludis can read it but not | that it can write it correctly) It's not that Paludis doesn't write it correctly. It's that Paludis writes some extra information that Portage can't handle. | 3) If using an own binary format will there be an extracter for it | that isn't part of Paludis? Why am i asking this? Well i've seen | instances when an upgrade broke something, and that was a dep of | portage. So my emerge couldn't revert back. So i just untarred the | tarball and recompiled it. (might not be the cleanest way, but the | only way i found in certain situations). tar. | 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? Pretty unlikely, past events considered. Personally I kind of like having commit access to my own code... -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list