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From: Stephen Bennett <spb@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:44:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060518164424.05c25a07@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605181651.00131.pauldv@gentoo.org>

On Thu, 18 May 2006 16:50:59 +0200
Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org> wrote:

> This is not a reason. It is just repeating what I just said. Which 
> features does paludis have for its VDB format. And (per feature) why 
> can't this be done in a compatible way.

We store more information than Portage in VDB, to remove the reliance
that current Portage has on certain parts of the tree being immutable
and in order to support multiple repositories properly (there is no
longer a single place to look for, say, eclass data at uninstall time).
We also construct VDB entries for old-style virtuals, which will
confuse Portage.

> What do you want then? Paludis does not aim to be compatible with
> portage, so this disqualifies paludis as a secondary package manager.

It aims to be compatible with the tree. As far as I know, it succeeds
as things currently stand.

> Two primary package managers is nonsensical. You ask for support in
> the tree for paludis, meaning that you don't want to be unsupported
> third party either. This leaves that you aim at paludis possibly
> becomming a portage replacement.

At present I ask not for support, but for a minor addition for
convenience purposes.
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Thread overview: 273+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07     ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39             ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33     ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55         ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50           ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]             ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17  0:04               ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55   ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03                 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35               ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50                 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13                   ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05                       ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47                       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  9:42                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08                           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29                             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25                               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28  3:54                             ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39     ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  5:03     ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53   ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  5:16     ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05   ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49     ` Chris Gianelloni
     [not found]     ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25             ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57                 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37                     ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54                       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17           ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47             ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  5:19   ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17  7:30     ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17  7:39       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39       ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56     ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17         ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17  9:23   ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17  9:42     ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02       ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02     ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17       ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11       ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13         ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42               ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34             ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29               ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14                   ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20                       ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51                           ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30                               ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43                         ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35                           ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17                                 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52                                   ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09                                     ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37                             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19  7:25                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19  7:35                                 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19  7:33                             ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55                         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41                       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:58                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10                               ` Brian Harring
     [not found]                       ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17                             ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33                               ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00                           ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
     [not found]   ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54             ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41                 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27               ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21             ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18  9:39                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13         ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26           ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:06             ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43                 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18  9:52                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:05           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:12               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:55                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26                     ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34                       ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38                         ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:00                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12                   ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-05-17 20:22                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:39                       ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 20:49                         ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-05-17 20:56                           ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:30                             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:32                               ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:47                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 23:07                               ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 10:15                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:19                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:47                                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:03                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:33                                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:42                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:27                                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19  7:35                                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34                           ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  2:12   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52     ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11     ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39                 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12   ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51     ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35   ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03   ` Mike Auty
2006-05-17 23:23     ` Ryan Phillips
2006-05-18  4:34       ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-18  7:19         ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 12:11           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:26             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 13:58               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:50                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:44                   ` Stephen Bennett [this message]
2006-05-18 17:55                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:05                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13                       ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:34                         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:26               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:00                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:23           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 16:44             ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:56               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:22               ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-18  7:21         ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 10:27       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 10:18   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 12:14     ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:31       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 14:02         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:30           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:12             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 11:22 ` Roy Bamford

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