From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Fgicb-0003oW-Ra for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:32:58 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4IDV8Kj005715; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:31:08 GMT Received: from callisto.cs.kun.nl (callisto.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.75]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4IDQ72C030419 for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 13:26:07 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by callisto.cs.kun.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03CD62E800D for ; Thu, 18 May 2006 15:26:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 15:26:06 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <446C201E.3060705@gentoo.org> <20060518131102.397fda08@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060518131102.397fda08@localhost> X-Face: #Lb+'V@sGJ;ptgo5}V"W+5OCoo{LZv;bh,s,`WKLi/J)ed1_$0;6X<=?utf-8?q?700LVV/=3BLqPhiDP=5E=0A=09=27f=5Dfnv?=@%6M8\'HR1t=aFx;ePfp{ZQoBe+e)JOQ8T5*(_;mHY+cltLGq<;@$Y,=?utf-8?q?O=5C=24=0A=09Tm=23G6M?=,g![Q62J{na*S9d;R[^8pc%u\aiLqU@`kJtYl"^6pxdW Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart21663038.mdNQ8dn5ob"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605181526.06635.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 1032b254-8398-46e6-8f22-9c8646766d12 X-Archives-Hash: 04858230cfbb25192918bc6809dc1f7c --nextPart21663038.mdNQ8dn5ob Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 18 May 2006 14:11, Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Thu, 18 May 2006 09:19:58 +0200 > > Jochen Maes wrote: > > 1) If Paludis has no business in replacing portage on systems (shame, > > if it's better/faster it should) why are we having this discussion. > > I understand that you need a profile and with an overlay you need to > > copy the profiles dir (the whole profiles dir) but be serious that's > > only So my question would you be able to do tests without changing > > the official tree by copying the profiles dir in an own overlay. > > We could put profiles in an overlay, but it would require adding > support for inheriting profiles relative to another repository path > rather than relative to the current directory. Doable, but another > place to be incompatible with Portage, so something I'd like to avoid > having to do if possible. Then copy the bloody profile, or temporarilly add some magic in paludis=20 that ignores portage and python deps. Not that hard to do. While not so=20 beautiful it can easilly be removed at a later stage. > > > 2) If Paludis will be installed on a system to test, and installs > > packages, will portage be aware of that installation, and will it be > > able to remove it (meaning Paludis changes the portage VDB correctly > > when needed). (i've seen you explain that Paludis can read it but not > > that it can write it correctly) > > Paludis can read a Portage VDB last time I tried, but a > Paludis-generated VDB will confuse Portage. How far does that spread? Is this only for packages merged by paludis, or=20 does it spread? And what reasons are there for paludis not to have a vdb=20 format that will not confuse portage. It is very important that package managers coexist with portage. This=20 allows testing of that package manager, but also the testing of a=20 package / eclass on different package managers. It would be irrealistic=20 to require devs to have a different installation just for testing=20 packages with paludis/pkgcore. > > 3) If using an own binary format will there be an extracter for it > > that isn't part of Paludis? > > Yes; it's called tar. > > > 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project? > > Doubtful, barring some rather drastic changes in Gentoo and the way its > projects are handled. So you are asking to go towards replacing portage with a package manager=20 that is not under gentoo control? Paul =2D-=20 Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net --nextPart21663038.mdNQ8dn5ob Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEbHXubKx5DBjWFdsRAhY4AKCsW8QZVv4R2J+nI1lbpdaKQ95L3ACfT32W wSKEFX03xft7/WM6F2jK9S8= =0lYX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart21663038.mdNQ8dn5ob-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list