From: Ryan Phillips <rphillips@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Mike Auty <ikelos@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:23:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060517232345.GA48034@zeus.kimaker.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <446BABA7.3080603@gentoo.org>
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Mike Auty <ikelos@gentoo.org> said:
> Forgive me,
> I'm a little new at this and I really don't want to get involved, but
> since my inbox has seen nothing but this for the past day or two, I'm
> going to ask a few questions I'm interested in the answers to...
> First and foremost is, will adding this to the tree be used for
> function creep, whereby the next request to add to/alter the portage
> tree is backed up by "Well, the profile change was already added to the
> tree"? I wouldn't want a precedent like this set without the council
> reviewing it.
I really don't see much of an issue of feature creep. Gentoo/ALT
already has a profile. It isn't like there are changes to the actual
ebuilds themselves.
> Thirdly has anything like this ever happened to Debian or the Sourcery
> group? If so how did they cope with it, and if not, how have they
> avoided it?
SMGL has voting and things get done.
> As you may have guessed I'm of the, "You can do the same thing with an
> overlay, so why must it be in the tree". I am however willing to wait
> and see what the council says, why can't the changes to the tree wait
> until then, what is so urgent? I'm especially intrigued since all this
> is simply to no longer require portage as a dependency of system. Can't
> paludis peacefully co-exist with a portage installation for a little
> longer, until it's mature?
The question is when is it mature? I've tried it and Paludis does
work. There will always be bugs and feature requests. Its part of
the development process.
Ryan Phillips
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2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
[not found] ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17 0:04 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28 3:54 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39 ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:03 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 5:16 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
[not found] ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:19 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 7:30 ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17 7:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:23 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19 7:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 7:33 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10 ` Brian Harring
[not found] ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17 ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
[not found] ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 9:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26 ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:06 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 9:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:55 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-05-17 20:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:39 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 20:49 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-05-17 20:56 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:32 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 23:07 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 10:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:47 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34 ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 2:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-17 23:23 ` Ryan Phillips [this message]
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2006-05-18 7:19 ` Jochen Maes
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2006-05-18 13:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
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2006-05-18 14:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 17:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13 ` Grant Goodyear
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2006-05-18 16:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:00 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 16:44 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Marius Mauch
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2006-05-18 14:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:12 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 11:22 ` Roy Bamford
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