From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FgThZ-0002p2-7i for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:37:05 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4HLWfgT024914; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:32:41 GMT Received: from smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk (smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.213.5]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4HLP2iR005623 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:25:02 GMT Received: from [172.23.170.139] (helo=anti-virus01-10) by smtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FgTVu-00046P-96 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:25:02 +0100 Received: from [213.121.151.206] (helo=snowdrop.home) by asmtp-out2.blueyonder.co.uk with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1FgTVt-0002QH-Qr for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 22:25:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:24:40 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Message-ID: <20060517222440.47e9de30@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <1147899318.16876.76.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <1147889572.16876.60.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20060517195046.589df365@snowdrop.home> <200605172130.13493.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20060517205552.58773b58@snowdrop.home> <1147899318.16876.76.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.1.1 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 365986cc-44b3-4e75-bb97-8e9f24a10416 X-Archives-Hash: 7b9d026b9a4b0096196df5b1f85ff6cd On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:55:17 -0400 Chris Gianelloni wrote: | On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 20:55 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: | > The plan, which may be full of holes, may change and may just be me | > being crazy, is to replace using a stage with something like: | | OK. So not only are you planning on replacing portage, you're | planning on replacing Release Engineering. Thanks, but we are not | interested. Not so much replacing as removing the need for. | > paludis --config-suffix install --install system | > | > which will then go off and grab the relevant binary packages from a | > remote location and merge them onto ROOT. Being able to do something | > along these lines is a) one of several reasons for --config-suffix | > and b) a large part of why I don't want to use the Portage tbz2 | > format, where metadata and contents aren't separated. | | Remote location, huh? What about non-networked installations? Remote location can be somewhere else on a filesystem. | > Assuming the above ends up not being insane, then yes. | | Which would have to be accepted by the Release Engineering project. | Perhaps this point has been lost on you up until now. *shrug* Not an issue. The whole thing removes the need for traditional releases. | > I'm pretty sure it would be easier to just not use anything in the | > installer that relies upon VDB when using Paludis. The installer | > code is flexible enough to make this not tooooo tricky. | | You mean like *all* of the GRP-handling code? Also no longer necessary. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail : ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list