From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1FgSDD-0008VP-Fo for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 17 May 2006 20:01:39 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k4HJr7Vr006956; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:53:07 GMT Received: from smtp50.wxs.nl (smtp50-real.wxs.nl [195.121.247.15]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k4HJZxnL021259 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 19:35:59 GMT Received: from hex.local.devrieze.net (ip5457f303.direct-adsl.nl [84.87.243.3]) by smtp50.wxs.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k4HJZwNf012234 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:35:59 +0200 From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:36:03 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060516161549.442b4d8a@localhost> <200605171739.03359.pauldv@gentoo.org> <20060517173956.3337e0bf@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20060517173956.3337e0bf@localhost> X-Face: #Lb+'V@sGJ;ptgo5}V"W+5OCoo{LZv;bh,s,`WKLi/J)ed1_$0;6X<=?utf-8?q?700LVV/=3BLqPhiDP=5E=0A=09=27f=5Dfnv?=@%6M8\'HR1t=aFx;ePfp{ZQoBe+e)JOQ8T5*(_;mHY+cltLGq<;@$Y,=?utf-8?q?O=5C=24=0A=09Tm=23G6M?=,g![Q62J{na*S9d;R[^8pc%u\aiLqU@`kJtYl"^6pxdW Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart6018184.rRvNI5LByy"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200605172136.03903.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: d3d940ac-4d7f-4b28-85c1-3a0c70680c01 X-Archives-Hash: 2765c8462a2ade432c44bccc569e4ec7 --nextPart6018184.rRvNI5LByy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 17 May 2006 18:39, Stephen Bennett wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006 17:39:02 +0200 > > Paul de Vrieze wrote: > > Wouldn't the introduction of the virtual not fix that. This > > introduction could be done independent of anything related to > > paludis. The introduction of such a virtual would also help other > > package managers like pkgcore. > > That would address some of the immediate concerns, but not any longer > term issues -- the default provider in all profiles would still be > portage, which requires nasty hackery at system install time, for a > start. I'd view changing the system dep to the virtual as a good thing > in itself, but not a substitute for a profile in the tree. The virtual is by default provided by the installed version. As it is=20 necessary to install paludis to use it (even for system install) I don't=20 think this is actually a problem. At the point where paludis is in a later= =20 stage of its development and acceptance, paludis specific profiles can be=20 created. As I have argued before, I think that there are various enhancemen= ts=20 that should be made to paludis before this can happen. In short, I don't think that paludis is ready to become an official seconda= ry=20 package manager. Personally I would only endorse a secondary package manager if I can go to= =20 install it on my current system and use it without fear of losing things.=20 Even if I decide to discontinue using it. Having to remerge (automatically)= =20 some packages for it would be acceptable, but I believe that it can be=20 avoided. Paul =2D-=20 Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net --nextPart6018184.rRvNI5LByy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEa3sjbKx5DBjWFdsRAoVlAKCW0hQuLJYUb9kBrafHg6i+Db+y+QCfcunn xFGAaZH7sFYPT6JNGBP1Ibw= =pI6P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart6018184.rRvNI5LByy-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list