From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 20:55:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060517205552.58773b58@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605172130.13493.pauldv@gentoo.org>
On Wed, 17 May 2006 21:30:13 +0200 Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| > | #1. Can paludis work with catalyst?
| >
| > No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to.
|
| Am I correct in reading this like you will implement a catalyst
| replacement?
The plan, which may be full of holes, may change and may just be me
being crazy, is to replace using a stage with something like:
paludis --config-suffix install --install system
which will then go off and grab the relevant binary packages from a
remote location and merge them onto ROOT. Being able to do something
along these lines is a) one of several reasons for --config-suffix and
b) a large part of why I don't want to use the Portage tbz2 format,
where metadata and contents aren't separated.
| > | #2. Can paludis build all of the release materials required by the
| > | Release Engineering release guidelines?
| >
| > No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to.
|
| Will you then instead try to create new guidelines that do result
| into development of releases?
Assuming the above ends up not being insane, then yes.
| > | #3. Can paludis build a portage-compatible VDB that can be used
| > | by the Gentoo Linux Installer?
| >
| > No. Nor will it ever, nor will it need to.
|
| Why will it not need to? Usage and support of paludis would be a lot
| greater it it could work (with limited feature perhaps) on a portage
| compatible VDB. You might work with the portage team to have portage
| be aware of extensions in the VDB and handle them smartly (ignore
| them?). At that point paludis could offer extra features while being
| still portage compatible.
I'm pretty sure it would be easier to just not use anything in the
installer that relies upon VDB when using Paludis. The installer code
is flexible enough to make this not tooooo tricky.
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2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
[not found] ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17 0:04 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28 3:54 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39 ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:03 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 5:16 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
[not found] ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:19 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 7:30 ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17 7:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:23 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19 7:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 7:33 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10 ` Brian Harring
[not found] ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17 ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
[not found] ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 9:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26 ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:06 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 9:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2006-05-17 20:55 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-05-17 20:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:39 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 20:49 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-05-17 20:56 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:32 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 23:07 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 10:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
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2006-05-18 18:33 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34 ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 2:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-17 23:23 ` Ryan Phillips
2006-05-18 4:34 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-18 7:19 ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 12:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 13:58 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 17:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:00 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 16:44 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-18 7:21 ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 10:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 10:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 12:14 ` Stephen Bennett
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2006-05-18 14:02 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:12 ` Stephen Bennett
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