From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:44:16 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060517194416.21c39ba5@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060517181308.GC30935@nightcrawler>
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:13:09 -0700 Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
wrote:
| > Paludis can read a Portage-generated VDB. Portage can't read a
| > Paludis-generated VDB, because Paludis has more features.
|
| What features? You're tracking CONFIG_PROTECT_*, and saving a copy
| of the eclass (icky solution, but we've discussed that in the past).
|
| Beyond that?
Right now, the biggie is virtuals. Attempting to unmerge a virtual that
was installed via Paludis will confuse the heck out of Portage. There's
also the whole "handling symlink / directory mismatches" issue, which
will cause Portage to incorrectly unmerge some Paludis-installed things
(and, for that matter, some Portage-installed things).
| > | - Paludis must work with all current ebuilds,
| >
| > Portage does not work with all current ebuilds.
|
| Name a few please, ones that are portage incompatibility rather then
| "ebuild no longer works against other ebuilds in the tree". Can't do
| anything about the latter, but the former without proof is fud.
We went over this already. Remember webapp.eclass?
| > | and support all features of portage.
| >
| > That's insane. Why should we support Portage-style 'candy' spinners?
|
| I'd expect he's talking more about stuff like having an ebuild
| binary/script for walking the phases of an ebuild for development.
Heh. You keep on picking out things that you think will be difficult to
implement.
| > | This includes recognition of EAPI
| >
| > Funnily enough, unlike Portage, Paludis has full EAPI handling.
|
| Please clarify on the "full"- since portage relies on EAPI protection
| already, any issues you see with it's implementation I'd love to know.
Portage still relies upon being able to source ebuilds, even if their
EAPI isn't supported.
| Additionally, you went and commited the vars into paludis (doing
| exactly what I said to do), thank you- lets avoid the 5 emails back
| and forth in the future however please...
Yes, we now have ~15 lines of useless code. But if that's what it takes
to make you happy...
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2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
[not found] ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17 0:04 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28 3:54 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39 ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:03 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 5:16 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
[not found] ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:19 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 7:30 ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17 7:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:23 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19 7:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 7:33 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10 ` Brian Harring
[not found] ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17 ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
[not found] ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 9:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26 ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2006-05-17 19:06 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 9:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
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2006-05-17 18:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:55 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
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2006-05-17 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12 ` Daniel Ostrow
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2006-05-17 20:39 ` Tim Yamin
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2006-05-17 21:32 ` Tim Yamin
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2006-05-18 10:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
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2006-05-18 20:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34 ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 2:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-17 23:23 ` Ryan Phillips
2006-05-18 4:34 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-18 7:19 ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 12:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 13:58 ` Stephen Bennett
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2006-05-18 15:44 ` Stephen Bennett
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2006-05-18 18:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13 ` Grant Goodyear
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