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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:27:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060517182756.GE30935@nightcrawler> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060517173238.6d364603@snowdrop.home>

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On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 05:32:38PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:23:19 +0200 Wernfried Haas <amne@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> | We really should figure that stuff out before we start integrating an
> | externally written package manager we have no influence on whatsoever
> 
> How much influence does your typical Gentoo developer or user have over
> the development of Portage? Please consider long-standing feature
> requests such as :slot and [use] deps in your answer.

Can we *please* avoid the portage bashing for at least a few days?  

As we've discussed in the past, sane base design and you can do 
use/slot without too much trouble.  Folks *do* request things of 
portage, and it *does* get added- multilib came about via requests 
from lv (pretty quick turn around), axxo's need for env tricks to deal 
with /etc/profile issues* results in pre/post phase hooks being added, 
etc.

Portage devs work with a crap source trying to implement what folks 
want- the code does fight certain features.  That doesn't mean you can 
construe it as "portage devs don't listen" as you're implying.

Besides that, lay off 'em.  Lot of people want features out of 
portage, but nobody ever steps up- usually what comes of it is just 
someone flaming them, rather then providing a patch.
~harring

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-17 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 273+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07     ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39             ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33     ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55         ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50           ` Ciaran McCreesh
     [not found]             ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17  0:04               ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55   ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35         ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03                 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35               ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50                 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13                   ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05                       ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00                     ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59                     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47                       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  9:42                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42                         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08                           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29                             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25                               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42                                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28  3:54                             ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39     ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  5:03     ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53   ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  5:16     ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05   ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49     ` Chris Gianelloni
     [not found]     ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58         ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21             ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25             ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57                 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37                     ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54                       ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58         ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17           ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24             ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47             ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53             ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57             ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25           ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  5:19   ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17  7:30     ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17  7:39       ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39       ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56     ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17         ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17  9:23   ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17  9:42     ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02       ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02     ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17       ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11       ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13         ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53           ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42               ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34             ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29               ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14                   ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20                       ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51                           ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30                               ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43                         ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35                           ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17                                 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52                                   ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09                                     ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37                             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19  7:25                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19  7:35                                 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19  7:33                             ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55                               ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55                         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41                       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:58                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10                               ` Brian Harring
     [not found]                       ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17                             ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33                               ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00                           ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27       ` Brian Harring [this message]
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
     [not found]   ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11         ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54             ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41                 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27               ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21             ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18  9:39                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13         ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26           ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:06             ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43                 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18  9:52                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:05           ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:29             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:12               ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:55                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26                     ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34                       ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38                         ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:13                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:00                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12                   ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-05-17 20:22                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:39                       ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 20:49                         ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-05-17 20:56                           ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:30                             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:32                               ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:47                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 23:07                               ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 10:15                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:19                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:47                                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:03                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:33                                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:42                                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:27                                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43                                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19  7:35                                               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34                           ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17  0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17  2:12   ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52     ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11     ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39               ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39                 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36                   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07       ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12   ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06   ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51     ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35   ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03   ` Mike Auty
2006-05-17 23:23     ` Ryan Phillips
2006-05-18  4:34       ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-18  7:19         ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 12:11           ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:26             ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 13:58               ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:50                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:44                   ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 17:55                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:05                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13                       ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:34                         ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:26               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:00                 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:23           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 16:44             ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:56               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:22               ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-18  7:21         ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 10:27       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 10:18   ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 12:14     ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:31       ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 14:02         ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:30           ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:12             ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 11:22 ` Roy Bamford

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