From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@blueyonder.co.uk>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles
Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:00:51 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060517160051.39b72cd8@snowdrop.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605171621.24458.carlo@gentoo.org>
On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:21:13 +0200 Carsten Lohrke <carlo@gentoo.org>
wrote:
| > Nice idea in theory. In reality, Portage is a big incestuous mess
| > and can't have that kind of change made to it
|
| The former yes, the latter statement is questionable.
Not really. It's why everyone is busy rewriting Portage. The code
simply isn't modular enough to make ripping out any particular
component viable.
| > , and defining such an
| > interface between package manager parts would take considerably more
| > time and code than just rewriting the whole thing.
|
| That won't mean you face the same situation at one point again, so
| you likely have to spent the same or even more amount of time, just
| over a longer time frame.
And no matter how many times people end up rewriting things, doing a
generic future-proof cross-language interface that supports everything
that *might* be done in the future is going to take so long that it
will never actually get written.
| > Having said that,
| > you can swap around pretty much any component of Paludis, since it's
| > proper modular code -- Kugelfang has a mostly working
| > implementation of a CRAN repository, for example.
|
| Doesn't sound like independent runtime components, as I am proposing.
It's compile time at present, simply because no-one considers it worth
the effort of screwing around with .so files until it's really really
necessary.
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2006-05-16 15:15 [gentoo-dev] Paludis and Profiles Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 12:19 ` Thomas Cort
2006-06-13 17:13 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 16:16 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 16:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-06-13 17:34 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:28 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:56 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 18:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-16 17:33 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-16 18:07 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 18:23 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-16 19:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 19:55 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 20:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
[not found] ` <20060516225638.GB29839@nightcrawler>
2006-05-17 0:04 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 14:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:10 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-16 16:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 17:06 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 17:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:51 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:09 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:03 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 18:27 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 18:53 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 19:35 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 19:50 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 20:13 ` Jan Kundrát
2006-05-16 20:41 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:05 ` Luis Francisco Araujo
2006-05-16 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-06-13 20:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 20:59 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-16 21:47 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:08 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:29 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:25 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-28 3:54 ` Ilya A. Volynets-Evenbakh
2006-05-16 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-06-13 17:28 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:39 ` Brian Harring
2006-06-13 18:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:10 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-16 17:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:03 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 13:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 17:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-16 17:53 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-06-13 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 5:16 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-06-13 17:32 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 17:43 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-05-16 18:35 ` Gustavo Zacarias
2006-05-16 19:05 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-05-16 20:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
[not found] ` <20060516231453.171002b9@epia.jeroenr-c2.orkz.net>
2006-05-16 22:22 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-16 23:58 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 13:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:21 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-17 15:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2006-05-17 14:25 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 14:46 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 14:57 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 15:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 16:37 ` George Prowse
2006-05-17 16:54 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 13:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:17 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-17 14:24 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 15:47 ` Kevin F. Quinn
2006-05-17 15:53 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 16:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:25 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 5:19 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 7:30 ` Matthijs van der Vleuten
2006-05-17 7:39 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-05-17 14:50 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-16 18:51 ` Robin H. Johnson
2006-05-16 19:10 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 19:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 20:56 ` Daniel Drake
2006-05-16 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-16 21:17 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-16 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:23 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 9:42 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-17 11:02 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 12:02 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 16:17 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 16:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:11 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:16 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:17 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:42 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-17 21:34 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-18 14:29 ` Patrick McLean
2006-05-18 14:54 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:14 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-05-18 18:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:20 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:51 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 19:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:30 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 18:43 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 19:35 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 20:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 13:54 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 14:17 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 14:52 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-19 15:09 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-18 20:37 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-19 7:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 7:33 ` Roy Marples
2006-05-19 13:55 ` Carsten Lohrke
2006-05-18 18:55 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:41 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-18 20:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 21:10 ` Brian Harring
[not found] ` <200605182219.23040.pauldv@gentoo.org>
2006-05-18 20:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 21:17 ` Alec Warner
2006-05-18 23:33 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 21:00 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 18:27 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-16 22:09 ` Marius Mauch
[not found] ` <200605170115.33956.kugelfang@gentoo.org>
2006-05-17 10:04 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 13:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:11 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:48 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:54 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:41 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-17 19:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 17:27 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 18:21 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 15:55 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2006-05-17 19:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 9:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 18:13 ` [gentoo-dev] " Brian Harring
2006-05-17 18:26 ` Benjamin Judas
2006-05-17 18:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:06 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 19:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:43 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 21:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:49 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 9:52 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 14:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 15:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 16:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:29 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 18:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 19:55 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:55 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:24 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 16:26 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-17 20:34 ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
2006-05-17 21:05 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 17:38 ` Thomas Cort
2006-05-18 10:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 21:27 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:13 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 10:03 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:12 ` Daniel Ostrow
2006-05-17 20:22 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 20:39 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 20:49 ` Andrew Gaffney
2006-05-17 20:56 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 21:32 ` Tim Yamin
2006-05-17 21:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 23:07 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-18 10:15 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 17:47 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:03 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:33 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 20:27 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 20:43 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-19 7:35 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 20:53 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 21:01 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 21:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 19:34 ` Josh Saddler
2006-05-18 20:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 0:42 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 2:12 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-05-17 10:14 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 10:52 ` Simon Stelling
2006-05-17 11:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 11:40 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 12:24 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:13 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 15:37 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 19:31 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 15:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 15:39 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 16:39 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 19:36 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-17 14:01 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 18:07 ` Brian Harring
2006-05-17 13:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 11:12 ` Christian Birchinger
2006-05-17 14:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2006-05-17 14:51 ` Harald van Dijk
2006-05-17 15:02 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-17 22:26 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-17 22:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-05-17 23:03 ` Mike Auty
2006-05-17 23:23 ` Ryan Phillips
2006-05-18 4:34 ` Christian Hartmann
2006-05-18 7:19 ` Jochen Maes
2006-05-18 12:11 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 13:26 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 13:58 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:44 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 17:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 18:05 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:13 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 18:34 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:26 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:00 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 16:23 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 16:44 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-05-18 16:56 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-05-18 18:22 ` Marius Mauch
2006-05-18 7:21 ` Jochen Maes
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2006-05-18 10:18 ` Paul de Vrieze
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2006-05-18 14:02 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 14:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-05-18 15:12 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-05-18 11:22 ` Roy Bamford
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