From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FZYDA-0002u7-Lx for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:01:05 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id k3SJ06Pt019974; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 19:00:06 GMT Received: from watcher.kimaker.com (c-67-169-29-182.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.169.29.182]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k3SIvUE8008977 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 18:57:30 GMT Received: by watcher.kimaker.com (Postfix, from userid 1002) id 0AACC75858D; Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 11:57:30 -0700 From: Ryan Phillips To: Alin Nastac Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo: State of the Union Message-ID: <20060428185729.GB63263@watcher.kimaker.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ryan Phillips , Alin Nastac , gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20060428171453.GB62035@watcher.kimaker.com> <20060428175248.GA28444@cerberus.oppresses.us> <20060428182205.GA62866@watcher.kimaker.com> <445261EE.2000408@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="neYutvxvOLaeuPCA" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <445261EE.2000408@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archives-Salt: 16f88ae1-e044-4e6e-a986-cfec02404df3 X-Archives-Hash: 59e51d6c1ac55ba153173d7a706529ed --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alin Nastac said: > Ryan Phillips wrote: >=20 > > > >The council should not vote on gleps are provide policy. They should > >be there to handle the money and world-wide problems. > > > >The developers should drive innovation; not the council. > > > >As in all democracies things get done slowly. We don't need a > >democracy within Gentoo, just a clear way of creating progress. > > > > =20 > > > Just because we have some elections in our process don't make Gentoo a > democracy. > Since we don't have a leader to make the important decisions, we need > some other form of authority to do the job. A council is the best > solution to the decisional problem. > Obviously it has nothing to do with innovation. As always, this is the > realm of developers. >=20 > In the rest, I basically agree with avenj. No point in repeating what > Jon already said... I disagree. The developers should make *all* the decisions. Bypass the council. The council should be there only for when we get sued, and manage the money we make. Does anyone agree that having a council is too political? I strongly believe it stifles gentoo. -Ryan --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEUmWY6cLeDQrpxL8RAoipAJ4urXoXy6jvq8Sc86j7vO6EZhdNzQCfdcUe Nt3V/G4r08DDPJC7QawyFSc= =4GsY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --neYutvxvOLaeuPCA-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list