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* [gentoo-dev] New virtuals: virtual/findutils virtual/admin-users virtual/admin-processes
@ 2006-04-03  5:26 Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
  2006-04-03 16:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò @ 2006-04-03  5:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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Okay three more virtuals that I think should be implemented.

The first would be for generic findutils, that is find and xargs commands; it 
would be satisfied by sys-apps/findutils or one of the BSD -ubin packages. 
This will solve problems of packages depending on sys-apps/findutils and then 
using a generic "find" instead of gfind on non-GNU userland.

The second would be an alias for shadow or the -usbin packages, this way one 
can actually depend on the right utilities when using enewuser for instance.

The third would be an alias for psmisc+procps or the -ubin packages, providing 
things like ps, kill and killall.

If nobody has problems with them (considering I'll fix the dependencies when i 
get around keywording things, although everybody is welcome to fix their 
packages right after adding the virtuals if they want ;) ), I'll commit them 
Tuesday night or Wednesday afternoon (depends when I find time for them, 
actually, and how much I can go on without having the need of these 
virtuals).

Thanks,
-- 
Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/
Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals: virtual/findutils virtual/admin-users virtual/admin-processes
  2006-04-03  5:26 [gentoo-dev] New virtuals: virtual/findutils virtual/admin-users virtual/admin-processes Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
@ 2006-04-03 16:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
  2006-04-03 17:59   ` Mike Frysinger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Ciaran McCreesh @ 2006-04-03 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 07:26:53 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò"
<flameeyes@gentoo.org> wrote:
| The first would be for generic findutils, that is find and xargs
| commands; it would be satisfied by sys-apps/findutils or one of the
| BSD -ubin packages. This will solve problems of packages depending on
| sys-apps/findutils and then using a generic "find" instead of gfind
| on non-GNU userland.

Being a system package and one that's required by over half the tree,
deps on find except in other system packages are probably superfluous...

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Wearer of the shiny hat)
Mail            : ciaranm at gentoo.org
Web             : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm


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* Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals: virtual/findutils virtual/admin-users virtual/admin-processes
  2006-04-03 16:25 ` Ciaran McCreesh
@ 2006-04-03 17:59   ` Mike Frysinger
  2006-04-03 19:38     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2006-04-03 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

On Monday 03 April 2006 12:25, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Apr 2006 07:26:53 +0200 "Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò"
>
> <flameeyes@gentoo.org> wrote:
> | The first would be for generic findutils, that is find and xargs
> | commands; it would be satisfied by sys-apps/findutils or one of the
> | BSD -ubin packages. This will solve problems of packages depending on
> | sys-apps/findutils and then using a generic "find" instead of gfind
> | on non-GNU userland.
>
> Being a system package and one that's required by over half the tree,
> deps on find except in other system packages are probably superfluous...

same goes for shadow
-mike

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals: virtual/findutils virtual/admin-users virtual/admin-processes
  2006-04-03 17:59   ` Mike Frysinger
@ 2006-04-03 19:38     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
  2006-04-03 21:20       ` Mike Frysinger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò @ 2006-04-03 19:38 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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On Monday 03 April 2006 19:59, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> same goes for shadow
Still there are things depending on it.
And as "someone" bitched about losing maintainability if we added || ( ) or 
kernel_linux? ( ) conditionals inside ebuilds, this is the final outcome...

Was for me I'd consider as assumed the presence of basic utilities like 
shadow, findutils and admin-processes, but if I'm not allowed to drop the 
deps or put them under conditional, this is only going to hinder me....

Well Mike you are usually practical about this, what you suggest?

-- 
Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://dev.gentoo.org/~flameeyes/
Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] New virtuals: virtual/findutils virtual/admin-users virtual/admin-processes
  2006-04-03 19:38     ` Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
@ 2006-04-03 21:20       ` Mike Frysinger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Mike Frysinger @ 2006-04-03 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

On Monday 03 April 2006 15:38, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> Was for me I'd consider as assumed the presence of basic utilities like
> shadow, findutils and admin-processes, but if I'm not allowed to drop the
> deps or put them under conditional, this is only going to hinder me....
>
> Well Mike you are usually practical about this, what you suggest?

as Ciaran said, if it isnt a base package but it depends on 
findutils/shadow/procps/psmisc, chances are pretty good it's a frivolous dep 
and should be dropped
-mike

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