From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FPtfb-0001Ef-It for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 03:54:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k323s7BD010032; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:54:07 GMT Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([65.98.89.194]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k323qCr9020572 for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2006 03:52:15 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB2947D41E for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:52:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (halcy0n.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25704-20 for ; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:52:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF3627D426; Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:52:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 22:52:07 -0500 From: Mark Loeser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [last rites] media-gfx/sodipodi Message-ID: <20060402035207.GZ13186@aerie.halcy0n.com> References: <1143626796.16501.16.camel@rivendell> <20060329235516.GM13186@aerie.halcy0n.com> <200604011918.25444.carlo@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="livrSZtJkVq9DDdS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200604011918.25444.carlo@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at halcy0n.com X-Archives-Salt: 0f5da408-04ea-4a05-a27e-b9b19017c05c X-Archives-Hash: 5044dad5173196a73e1e368d24bc3efb --livrSZtJkVq9DDdS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Carsten Lohrke said: > On Thursday 30 March 2006 01:55, Mark Loeser wrote: > > Not directed specifically at you, but it seems a lot of people are > > masking stuff and removing it very quickly, and I'd really like to see > > everyone wait the 30 days to remove something from the tree. That way > > anyone using this package in some way will get the message from p.mask, > > and know what they should upgrade to. > > > > With that being said, is there any reason that the package should be > > removed so quickly? >=20 > Yes, there is. It's slowing down the process, getting into the flow. Wait= ing=20 > 30 days is a lot of time. A regular user does not necessarily follow the= =20 > dev-gentoo mailing list and it doesn't matter for him, if the package is= =20 > masked or removed. Because everyone is sitting in anticipation of the package being removed? Mask the package, and go about your life as if it was gone. Then in a month when you remember about it again, remove it. The difference is, if you mask the package, the user gets a nice error message explaining what is going on. If you just remove the package, then they just get an error that the package has disappeared on them. By your logic, we should do away with the entire masking process and just remove stuff when we like, and that would just lead to users filing lots of bugs asking where their package went. Everyone used to wait the month, but lately it seems like no one can ignore the package for that long after putting it in p.mask. --=20 Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com --livrSZtJkVq9DDdS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEL0pnCRZPokWLroQRApubAJwLXborBF99vduK6Tt86TnheMNVqQCfT5lm Wy/fQ4hteUvsXngsHfLyD7M= =W+bJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --livrSZtJkVq9DDdS-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list