From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FMVGg-0004yn-6r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:14:46 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k2NJDfme013974; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:13:41 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k2NJAdhb022068 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:10:39 GMT Received: from [65.115.53.39] (helo=[192.168.10.54]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1FMVCh-0003OD-8s for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:10:39 +0000 From: Daniel Ostrow Organization: The Gentoo Foundation, Inc. To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Official overlay support Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:10:48 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.9 References: <441F35B9.8000406@gentoo.org> <20060323184148.73e44f21@snowdrop.home> <4422EF83.6000705@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4422EF83.6000705@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2830124.LuyRFrjsir"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200603231410.52121.dostrow@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 3715eb42-db60-42b9-a2f6-616a77632fbe X-Archives-Hash: 920c19fd503f41b9bd384da51242079c --nextPart2830124.LuyRFrjsir Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 23 March 2006 13:57, Jakub Moc wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 19:31:24 +0100 "Stefan Schweizer" > > > > wrote: > > | What about if we just skip your "policies" and let the overlays be a > > | free place where people can handle issues how they think it is right > > | for the specific case and not how $super_dev said somewhere. That is > > | what overlays are about, not? > > > > Sounds like a perfect way to break lots and lots of systems. Those > > policies are mostly there for good reason. > > You want to apply policies on overlays? Well no - sorry, overlays are > none of QA's or any other policy business. They are overlays, not > official tree. If user installs ebuilds from overlay and breaks his > system, then well - not a Gentoo problem. Why should any policies apply? That is not what Stuart said, he indicated that overlays would be treated a= s=20 supported systems including the use of our bugzilla system to track defects= =2E=20 If that is the case it crosses the line into the land of the "official" in= =20 which case policys start to be applied. While I agree that it would be very= =20 useful to have any overlays centrally located I do find the term "Official= =20 overlay" to be insanely oxymoronic in your use of the term overlay, which I= =20 gather to be "a set of ebuilds not bound by the QA and/or security=20 requirements of the portage tree". If I understand correctly what you are pushing then is a Official overlay=20 respository for Unofficial overlays.... You can't have it both ways, either they are wholey Unofficial and do not g= et=20 tracked in bugzilla at all (something which would have to be made VERY clea= r=20 to our users, e.g. a you use it you get to keep the pieces policy, and the= =20 developer or team in question is the *only* point of contact for fixing=20 things) -or- it is an Official overlay with official support which means it= =20 needs to abide by the rules... =2D-=20 Daniel Ostrow Gentoo Foundation Board of Trustees Gentoo/{PPC,PPC64,DevRel} dostrow@gentoo.org --nextPart2830124.LuyRFrjsir Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEIvK8sb0gXCN8LgURAmu/AKCWBErUa/rv3Ch0ON8SINwkwSjWVwCeJ6s3 JfNDuQqgYY1/fyjv//QAH68= =mrST -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2830124.LuyRFrjsir-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list