From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FEQQj-0000Ta-6f for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2006 12:27:45 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k21CQSvY005527; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:26:28 GMT Received: from psmtp01.wxs.nl (psmtp01-real.wxs.nl [195.121.247.14]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k21CNxRk023847 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:23:59 GMT Received: from pavlvs2.devrieze.net (ip5457f303.direct-adsl.nl [84.87.243.3]) by psmtp01.wxs.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id k21CNxkh002519 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:23:59 +0100 Received: from hex.local.devrieze.net (hex.local.devrieze.net [192.168.1.7]) by pavlvs2.devrieze.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153091004E for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:24:00 +0100 (CET) From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 13:24:01 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.1 References: <20060227213321.7ee405ec@snowdrop.home> <4404C786.9020000@gentoo.org> <200602281808.10068.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200602281808.10068.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Face: #Lb+'V@sGJ;ptgo5}V"W+5OCoo{LZv;bh,s,`WKLi/J)ed1_$0;6X<=?utf-8?q?700LVV/=3BLqPhiDP=5E=0A=09=27f=5Dfnv?=@%6M8\'HR1t=aFx;ePfp{ZQoBe+e)JOQ8T5*(_;mHY+cltLGq<;@$Y,=?utf-8?q?O=5C=24=0A=09Tm=23G6M?=,g![Q62J{na*S9d;R[^8pc%u\aiLqU@`kJtYl"^6pxdW Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1969337.FHtSWga8yK"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200603011324.01556.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 7ec000b7-1a27-4b10-a9dc-2915c0c78df1 X-Archives-Hash: 06e5f621463de4762bd73515dd6cb827 --nextPart1969337.FHtSWga8yK Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-6" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 01 March 2006 00:08, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > dont get me wrong, i wasnt implying that bugs shouldnt be filed ... i was > addressing the incorrect idea that it isnt a valid QA issue unless a user > experiences it and complains via bugzilla I agree with this. I would however also like to ask QA to allow exceptions = to=20 policy for well-discussed reasons. Sometimes ugly hacks are needed, and as= =20 long as they are understood to be ugly, they must not be banned outright. I= =20 don't think it is a problem if those issues have LATER bugs on them blockin= g=20 on some feature request bug. I can even agree with it that a feature reques= t=20 bug must be written for such a hack to be allowed. With respect to webapp-config. I know it's ugly, I know it does perform job= s=20 that should be performed by portage. Portage however doesn't, and=20 webapp-config does provide valuable features for many users. As such, as lo= ng=20 as portage does not offer the features that webapp-config provides, I am of= =20 the opinion that the webapp.eclass should be allowed to use "minimal" hacks= =20 to provide the webapp features. QA's role in this case is to ensure that no= =20 hacks are added, and to signal it when the hacks break. Paul =2D-=20 Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net --nextPart1969337.FHtSWga8yK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBEBZJhbKx5DBjWFdsRAvUsAJ40v/r869qCEIooP7Tk4ooQWi4gUACfSCeN P37lgxixbknrabaAcb85FfQ= =NALW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1969337.FHtSWga8yK-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list