Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role

[Renat Lumpau <rl03@gentoo.org>]

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On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 06:34:32PM -0500, Mark Loeser wrote:
> Renat Lumpau <rl03@gentoo.org> said:
> > Yes. Here's a quote from Halcy0n (with his permission):
> > 
> >   Don't mistake me not getting involved for approval.  I am just not going to
> >   get involved in every single dev->dev disagreement, and certainly not when I
> >   do not have all of the facts.  I wasn't aware that every team leader was
> >   accountable for how devs on their team behaved.
> > 
> > This is not meant as a comment on Halcy0n's abilities as a team leader, as I
> > understand he has attempted to manage the issue but "reasonable effort" has
> > failed.
> > 
> > So, my concern is: if the QA team can't manage its members effectively, should
> > they be entrusted with tree-wide powers?
> 
> Since one dev so far has stepped "out of line", and this is by no means the
> only time it has happened, I don't see how this argument has any
> merit.  If it becomes a pattern where all members of the QA team are
> causing problems, then I can see it as being valid.
> 
> I don't think you will find one person that is going to say they are
> capable of changing how Ciaran interacts with people.  This is an
> entirely different issue though, and I have talked to Ciaran about it.
> What I was saying above is that I am not going to go and get involved
> every single time someone has a disagreement.  This situation has
> obviously grown to be ridiculous and I have had a talk with him about
> it, so he knows my feelings on the situation, and what I expect.

So you're saying it's ok to have one team member who steps out of line and
cannot be managed?  Are all teams allowed that exception?

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