From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FDWQV-0003Xl-KZ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:39:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k1R0d1hq004705; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:39:01 GMT Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([65.98.89.194]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1R0Zg55031320 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:35:43 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E557F7E887 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:35:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (halcy0n.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06725-05-8 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:35:41 -0500 (EST) Received: by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69C787E9FB; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:35:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:35:41 -0500 From: Mark Loeser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Message-ID: <20060227003541.GF17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> References: <20060226222217.GB17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> <20060226231121.GB11930@dogmatix.willow.local> <20060226232147.37349bc2@snowdrop.home> <20060226233558.GD11930@dogmatix.willow.local> <20060227000929.GC17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> <440247DE.5010902@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <440247DE.5010902@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at halcy0n.com X-Archives-Salt: ed9f72ca-b01c-4932-91c9-a9e80cd42a2d X-Archives-Hash: c4393be10d8e9a6672d4f88af866b7ed --6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Donnie Berkholz said: > Mark Loeser wrote: > > Well, instead of putting the debate into an even larger crowd, this > > enables the QA team to act in the way it sees best first. If people > > believe we were wrong, then we give them the option to talk to the > > council about one of our changes. Also, we aren't unwilling to hear > > alternatives and we hope to work with the maintainer on these problems. >=20 > As Stuart mentioned, this is not a good idea. If the maintainer > disagrees with QA-made changes, the changes should be reverted until a > higher-level decision is made. This mirrors FreeBSD policy [1], which > seems to be working quite well for them. A particularly relevant part is > this: >=20 > "Any disputed change must be backed out pending resolution of the > dispute if requested by a maintainer. Security related changes may > override a maintainer's wishes at the Security Officer's discretion." Which is basically what we are saying. Stuart seems to be saying to leave things "broken" and wait until a higher level decision is made. We want to fix it/back it out/do whatever, and then come to some resolution later if we couldn't at first. --=20 Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com --6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEAkldCRZPokWLroQRAr6YAJ4qcR8qGo9C8Exa8lV6prXkBfQSLACffHA2 scUNNLXGJNXKFZk9NrqSF7M= =+tR+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6v9BRtpmy+umdQlo-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list