From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FDW41-0004ui-6k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:16:33 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k1R0ECLC026160; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:14:12 GMT Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([65.98.89.194]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k1R09VKj029144 for ; Mon, 27 Feb 2006 00:09:31 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95FC7E887 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:09:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from aerie.halcy0n.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (halcy0n.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 06348-05-3 for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:09:29 -0500 (EST) Received: by aerie.halcy0n.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5F0C17E9FB; Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:09:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:09:29 -0500 From: Mark Loeser To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Message-ID: <20060227000929.GC17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> References: <20060226222217.GB17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> <20060226231121.GB11930@dogmatix.willow.local> <20060226232147.37349bc2@snowdrop.home> <20060226233558.GD11930@dogmatix.willow.local> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060226233558.GD11930@dogmatix.willow.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at halcy0n.com X-Archives-Salt: 4c8563ed-aa32-442f-a2bd-b93c816a2211 X-Archives-Hash: 70bb66f877d605fce7877615c2260082 --oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable johnm@gentoo.org said: > yeah, thats totally understandable. Its a best-efforts thing. I just > don't want neccessary to be deemed true for something which has an > arguable point with technical merit. Blatent mkdir-esque madness would > be more black than white, and I'd hope for this to try and sanitise the > gray :) Later on we tried to address that by saying the majority of the QA team members must agree with the action. It is normally pretty black and white when things are necessary, and I do not know how we can accurately describe those problems without limiting our scope. > > The problem with that is, it usually ends up with too many pointless > > comments from people saying how things could be fixed in the distant > > future, or whining that it isn't explicitly forbidden by policy on > > situations where the screwup was too weird to be documented previously. >=20 > This is very much a case-by-case thing. I still feel the debate should > be better answered outside of conflicting qa members. Well, instead of putting the debate into an even larger crowd, this enables the QA team to act in the way it sees best first. If people believe we were wrong, then we give them the option to talk to the council about one of our changes. Also, we aren't unwilling to hear alternatives and we hope to work with the maintainer on these problems. --=20 Mark Loeser - Gentoo Developer (cpp gcc-porting qa toolchain x86) email - halcy0n AT gentoo DOT org mark AT halcy0n DOT com web - http://dev.gentoo.org/~halcy0n/ http://www.halcy0n.com --oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEAkM5CRZPokWLroQRAlcUAJ99IoCuw1SDfHX4wUf1ZKs3vL3hkwCfR6Yt raB9LiLR2USkxvikHnZrtW4= =yEts -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oJ71EGRlYNjSvfq7-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list