From: Mark Loeser <halcy0n@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 19:09:29 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060227000929.GC17257@aerie.halcy0n.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060226233558.GD11930@dogmatix.willow.local>
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johnm@gentoo.org said:
> yeah, thats totally understandable. Its a best-efforts thing. I just
> don't want neccessary to be deemed true for something which has an
> arguable point with technical merit. Blatent mkdir-esque madness would
> be more black than white, and I'd hope for this to try and sanitise the
> gray :)
Later on we tried to address that by saying the majority of the QA team
members must agree with the action. It is normally pretty black and
white when things are necessary, and I do not know how we can accurately
describe those problems without limiting our scope.
> > The problem with that is, it usually ends up with too many pointless
> > comments from people saying how things could be fixed in the distant
> > future, or whining that it isn't explicitly forbidden by policy on
> > situations where the screwup was too weird to be documented previously.
>
> This is very much a case-by-case thing. I still feel the debate should
> be better answered outside of conflicting qa members.
Well, instead of putting the debate into an even larger crowd, this
enables the QA team to act in the way it sees best first. If people
believe we were wrong, then we give them the option to talk to the
council about one of our changes. Also, we aren't unwilling to hear
alternatives and we hope to work with the maintainer on these problems.
--
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2006-02-26 22:22 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 22:58 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:13 ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:51 ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27 0:42 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-26 23:11 ` johnm
2006-02-26 23:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:35 ` johnm
2006-02-27 0:09 ` Mark Loeser [this message]
2006-02-27 0:29 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 0:35 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 1:53 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 2:10 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 3:34 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 5:13 ` Ned Ludd
2006-02-27 6:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 16:47 ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-27 17:15 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:21 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:48 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:02 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 17:30 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 9:19 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-28 16:04 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:05 ` Donnie Berkholz
2006-02-27 5:09 ` Ned Ludd
2006-02-27 16:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 8:58 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-26 23:41 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-26 23:51 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 0:12 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 9:09 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 16:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:09 ` John Mylchreest
2006-02-27 17:18 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-26 23:48 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 0:34 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-27 1:21 ` Daniel Goller
2006-02-27 9:00 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 17:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:21 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 18:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 17:31 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:26 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 20:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 20:45 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-27 21:02 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 21:04 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 21:18 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-27 21:34 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 22:38 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 23:07 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-27 21:34 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:42 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 21:12 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-27 21:32 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 9:49 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 14:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:08 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:29 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 15:42 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:23 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 16:24 ` [gentoo-dev] Policies (was: [RFC] QA Team's role) Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 16:39 ` Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:35 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 15:29 ` [gentoo-dev] [RFC] QA Team's role Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 7:37 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 16:44 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 16:00 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 11:45 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:43 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 6:11 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-27 20:49 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-27 21:33 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 9:38 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 12:54 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 13:34 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 14:00 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 14:33 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:07 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:21 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:46 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 14:55 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 14:52 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:12 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 15:26 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 15:42 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 16:11 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 16:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:00 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:09 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:30 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 17:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:59 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:09 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 18:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 19:03 ` Wernfried Haas
2006-02-28 18:14 ` Fernando J. Pereda
2006-02-28 18:19 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:55 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 18:01 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 18:02 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 19:11 ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2006-02-28 19:21 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:24 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:09 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:42 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-02-28 20:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 12:09 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-03-01 12:24 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 13:16 ` Simon Stelling
2006-02-28 17:02 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 17:11 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 17:51 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 19:59 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 20:10 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 20:39 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:02 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 21:31 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 21:50 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:55 ` Dan Meltzer
2006-02-28 22:10 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 21:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 22:12 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 22:14 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-28 22:36 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:34 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 23:45 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 23:57 ` Mark Loeser
2006-03-01 0:13 ` Lance Albertson
2006-03-01 0:28 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 0:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01 7:17 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 2:22 ` Lance Albertson
2006-02-28 22:42 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 22:50 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 23:10 ` Patrick Lauer
2006-02-28 23:45 ` Mark Loeser
2006-02-28 21:58 ` Alec Warner
2006-02-28 23:08 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-03-01 12:24 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 18:00 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 18:39 ` Mike Frysinger
2006-02-28 19:27 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 19:38 ` Stephen Bennett
2006-02-28 19:42 ` Stephen P. Becker
2006-02-28 16:40 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-28 16:22 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-02-28 16:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:17 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-03-01 7:21 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 10:29 ` Danny van Dyk
2006-03-01 11:02 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2006-03-01 12:30 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 15:21 ` Renat Lumpau
2006-02-27 20:57 ` Stuart Herbert
2006-02-28 10:34 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-28 14:47 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 15:22 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 18:05 ` Grant Goodyear
2006-02-27 18:19 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2006-02-28 10:55 ` Paul de Vrieze
2006-02-27 19:05 ` Mark Loeser
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