Lance Albertson wrote: [Fri Jan 06 2006, 09:27:23AM CST] > As seen from the discussion earlier this week, I don't think Gentoo has > the proper open-mindness to create a proper enterprise distro. There are > too many things that would get in the way of Gentoo proper to make it > work right. I agree with Duncan that the best route is an outside > project so that they don't have the constraints of Gentoo proper. Trying > to inflict the ideals of an enterprise distro into Gentoo right now will > be an uphill battle the whole way. Just look at all the comments made > from my thread earlier. You cannot make an enterprise distro without > focus or direction and a leader. You'll be stuck in committee decisions > all the time. I understand that you are naturally disheartened that the discussion you started did not end as you would have liked. Fair enough, but I think you should also take another look at that body of responses. Many were, indeed, sulky "I don't wanna leader" comments, but there were also a number of well-written, cogently-argued replies both in favor of and opposed to what you wrote. All in all, I would say that the discussion you started was a net "win" for Gentoo. (Of course, I also happen to disagree with your premise, so I'm biased, but I hope that I'm open-minded enough that I would feel the same if the results had gone the other way.) Indeed, I suggest that this reasonably well-behaved discussion indicates that the Gentoo community is rather open-minded itself. Addressing your point about Enterprise Gentoo, I think you're probably right about it needing focus, direction, and a leader, but that's quite different from needing Gentoo as a whole to have any of those. The Gentoo *BSD work is a good example of how much can be done by a team > Not saying its impossible, but it won't be easy. Absolutely true. That said, there's relatively little resistance to the concept of Enterprise Gentoo, as far as I know. There is substantial resistance to anything that might add additional work to already-overwhelmed package maintainers, however, and I believe that the lack of an acceptable solution there is what stalled things the last time around. -g2boojum- -- Grant Goodyear Gentoo Developer g2boojum@gentoo.org http://www.gentoo.org/~g2boojum GPG Fingerprint: D706 9802 1663 DEF5 81B0 9573 A6DC 7152 E0F6 5B76