From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EuSWo-0003CC-HQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:39:30 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id k05AcfDO023494; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:38:41 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k05Aafuq000773 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:36:42 GMT Received: from 82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.41.57.20] helo=snowdrop.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1EuSU5-000030-Fq for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:36:41 +0000 Received: from localhost.home ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop.home) by snowdrop.home with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EuSTv-0003eG-IG for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 10:36:31 +0000 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 10:36:28 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January Message-ID: <20060105103628.316835af@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <pan.2006.01.05.10.26.03.4997@cox.net> References: <43B96D6D.8080107@gentoo.org> <20060105043130.GI1967@mail.lieber.org> <43BCB0F9.5000505@egr.msu.edu> <200601042205.52361.cshields@gentoo.org> <20060105064956.GC14338@nightcrawler.e-centre.net> <pan.2006.01.05.10.26.03.4997@cox.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0-rc1 (GTK+ 2.8.9; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_sSClodURidDVPP6ywK+D=YG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 462ba789-b4f1-4d34-89a1-50df7d9632c6 X-Archives-Hash: 40b61ea06b379424ebb26f3adf43f74f --Sig_sSClodURidDVPP6ywK+D=YG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 03:26:03 -0700 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: | Anyone who thinks Gentoo isn't progressing simply isn't seeing the | forest for all the trees, as they say. Another way of putting it is | that Gentoo seems to be in that critical period after the honeymoon, | it has hit its middle-aged crisis. Reality has set in -- we're not | going to magically move mountains, as yes, a mountain /can/ be moved, | see the history of the Panama canal for instance, but it takes a | *LOT* of work, a LOT of investment, and sometimes even some deaths | along the way. During that time, progress may seem painfully slow, | yet it never-the-less occurs. What's the alternative, dumping the | project and leaving it for dead? Then all that work and investment, | and all those deaths, /will/ be in vain. What makes you think we're not moving mountains? Getting 1.4 out of the door was considered an amazing feat. Now we're doing the same thing every six months, and it's largely going unnoticed. Is something only an impressive accomplishment if it goes wrong and generates lots of mess first? --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (King of all Londinium) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Sig_sSClodURidDVPP6ywK+D=YG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDvPau96zL6DUtXhERAnOmAJ4swb/cccfm5hUqnSFFuevMhURcxQCgzaUM PmCBO9VlnaxZZkF5fty5ZkA= =AxHh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_sSClodURidDVPP6ywK+D=YG-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list