From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EmFlg-0007fa-J7 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:24:57 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBDJNU0F021707; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:23:30 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBDJK6Nb016380 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:20:06 GMT Received: from 82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.41.57.20] helo=snowdrop.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1EmFh0-0006zt-5H for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:20:06 +0000 Received: from localhost.home ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop.home) by snowdrop.home with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1EmFgx-0004Dr-Oo for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:20:03 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:20:00 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Critical News Reporting) round five Message-ID: <20051213192000.1f8e35ff@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <pan.2005.12.13.12.19.25.513852@cox.net> References: <20051213032043.55a6e40f@snowdrop.home> <pan.2005.12.13.12.19.25.513852@cox.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0-rc1 (GTK+ 2.8.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_tiD_=Y5hGdZKpM+YjSaW8Cr"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: ab61f9bc-1476-4034-9479-7a733fa20937 X-Archives-Hash: 2f5884f1b753a2c0f16d93bf70487924 --Sig_tiD_=Y5hGdZKpM+YjSaW8Cr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:19:27 -0700 Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: | Ciaran McCreesh posted <20051213032043.55a6e40f@snowdrop.home>, | excerpted below, on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:20:43 +0000: |=20 | > Ok, new draft. Changes are as follows: | [] | > * Changed /var/lib/portage to /var/lib/gentoo |=20 | OK, I must have missed the reason for that, and it isn't listed in | one of your "a previous version" notes, unless I missed that too. <g> It's getting ready for the glorious future when we won't be using Portage any more. I also changed most of the instances of "Portage" in the GLEP to "the package manager". | Wouldn't it be less confusing if the news warning appeared in the same | place, relative to the package listing, in both of these? Isn't an | emerge --ask just the output of pretend, with a confirmation pinned | to the end? Shouldn't it continue to be that, at least in concept? It's a question of visibility. | First, the change outline doesn't state what the result actually was, | in the GLEP. Mandatory would require a MUST (or a similar statement | that it's mandatory), while the GLEP words it as a SHOULD. Or is | "should" not to be taken in the usual RFC meaning, but rather as an | RFC "MUST"? I'm avoiding 'must', because there's probably a legitimate exception somewhere. | Third, recall from the discussion of an earlier draft, someone | mentioned the multiple meaning of read (as here) vs. "read" (as in | README). The suggestion to avoid that ambiguity was "seen" and | "unseen". Another might be (un)viewed. I'm not sure this is a big | enough issue to matter much, particularly with "unread" there as | well, to influence the context, but as I don't recall that point | being addressed, I thought I'd mention it here. Pfff. Email clients use it. Trying to avoid words with multiple definitions in English is pretty much futile. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill you with my brain) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Sig_tiD_=Y5hGdZKpM+YjSaW8Cr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDnx7j96zL6DUtXhERAiKIAJ9vghp6o7iTb3OK92kinD+RGzVRBgCeNRaS lH/fMN1WNYEUM3GCEkY3DVE= =m9eS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_tiD_=Y5hGdZKpM+YjSaW8Cr-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list