From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1ElVN1-00086g-7v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:52:23 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jBBHp1Fj003304; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:51:01 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jBBHkgMU006169 for <gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:46:43 GMT Received: from 82-41-57-20.cable.ubr08.edin.blueyonder.co.uk ([82.41.57.20] helo=snowdrop.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.54) id 1ElVHW-0004lj-DX for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:46:42 +0000 Received: from localhost.home ([127.0.0.1] helo=snowdrop.home) by snowdrop.home with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1ElVHQ-0000YY-U2 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:46:36 +0000 Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:46:34 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaranm@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 (Critical news reporting) updates Message-ID: <20051211174634.7b69b964@snowdrop.home> In-Reply-To: <20051211164601.GA19355@superlupo.rechner> References: <20051211013550.66bfd7d2@snowdrop.home> <20051211164601.GA19355@superlupo.rechner> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0-rc1 (GTK+ 2.8.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev+help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev+subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_F_NFFpyrWAXZ=mt=qTecQRO"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: 8247a5af-675b-48d9-9aa2-52f05554a3fb X-Archives-Hash: b1dd9dc736901621caddf3c8f0dfc3ea --Sig_F_NFFpyrWAXZ=mt=qTecQRO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:46:01 +0100 Wernfried Haas <amne@gentoo.org> wrote: | > There are currently several ways of delivering important news items | > to our users, none of them particularly effective: |=20 | I'd suggest changing this to something more constructive - calling our | current efforts "none of them particularly effective" isn't exactly | a constructive way of critizing things. They're not particularly effective. If they were, there would be no need for this GLEP. | > A more reliable way of getting news of critical updates out to | > users is required to avoid repeats of the various recent upgrade | > debacles.=20 |=20 | As it was mentioned above, gcc 3.4 went pretty well on x86, can't | comment on mysql as i don't use it myself. I didn't say anywhere that the gcc 3.4 upgrade was a debacle. | I'd suggest changing this | text for something more diplomatic as i don't see much sense in having | council approved GLEPs talking about council approved upgrade | debacles. What, we're not allowed to admit that not everything we do works? | > .. Important:: This GLEP does not seek to replace or modify | > ``einfo`` messages which are displayed post-install. That is a | > separate issue which is handled by ``elog`` [#bug-11359]_. |=20 | Thanks for clearing this quite important point up. That was added after the GLEP was wildly misreported in GWN the last time around... | I'd suggest extending the process of creating a news item to also | create a text to be posted to www.gentoo.org, the | announce-mailinglist, the forums, RSS feeds, GWN, etc. Of course | depending on the importance it may be decided to e.g. not post it=20 | on announce but only www.gentoo.org. |=20 | Do you think this can be done within this GLEP or rather outside? That's beyond the scope of the GLEP. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (I can kill you with my brain) Mail : ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm --Sig_F_NFFpyrWAXZ=mt=qTecQRO Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDnGX896zL6DUtXhERAo7AAKC2bcOPQNs5P1VEekzTtYH8TLAZ/gCeLSHR JuO45GyL6mTRoJ9+hco1xZA= =LICW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_F_NFFpyrWAXZ=mt=qTecQRO-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list