From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ei3ZH-00009v-NN for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:34:48 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jB25Y4aN029202; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 05:34:04 GMT Received: from tiger.gg3.net (m006052.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp [219.121.6.52]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jB25WH97018441 for ; Fri, 2 Dec 2005 05:32:18 GMT Received: (qmail 18515 invoked by uid 89); 2 Dec 2005 05:32:16 -0000 Received: from ols-dell.iic.hokudai.ac.jp (133.87.4.159) by 0 with SMTP; 2 Dec 2005 05:32:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 16295 invoked by uid 1000); 2 Dec 2005 05:32:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:32:16 +0900 From: Georgi Georgiev To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] contents of /dev after initial installation Message-ID: <20051202053215.GB4970@ols-dell.iic.hokudai.ac.jp> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <1133490923.15611.31.camel@sputnik886.ruz-net> <20051202024755.0203586d@localhost> <20051202034459.GB2550@ols-dell.iic.hokudai.ac.jp> <20051202035720.0be09805@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051202035720.0be09805@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Archives-Salt: 684b79b7-99dd-4219-b5c1-c2d451119ae1 X-Archives-Hash: 028842749d561057052ab7593420f66e maillog: 02/12/2005-03:57:20(+0000): Stephen Bennett types > On Fri, 2 Dec 2005 12:45:00 +0900 > Georgi Georgiev wrote: > > > I don't need a fully populated /dev to get a working shell with > > init=/bin/bash on the kernel cmdline. And at that point it is easy to > > run /dev/MAKEDEV and get whatever devices are needed for > > troubleshooting. > > Still more effort than booting into a system that is pretty much > fully-functional already to fix it. > > > I of course assume that if the dynamic /dev management fails, then we > > need to *recover* instead of trying to get the system up as usual. > > And I also assume that the init scripts will anyway tell me "fatal > > error: give root password for maintenance or Ctrl-D to continue" if I > > have something vital missing from /dev. > > See above. And that still doesn't address the issue that some people > don't even want dynamic device management in the first place. Crap! I was so positive there's a use flag for udev somewhere. Since you have to accommodate for all possibilities, I'd have to agree with you here. -- () Georgi Georgiev () if macOS is for the computer () () chutz@gg3.net () illiterate, then windoze is for the () () http://www.gg3.net/ () computer masochists () -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list