From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Eequ4-0007Wn-Nd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:27:01 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAN9QJA4029594; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:26:19 GMT Received: from callisto.cs.kun.nl (callisto.cs.kun.nl [131.174.33.75]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAN9OU7f013409 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 09:24:30 GMT Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by callisto.cs.kun.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828922E8216 for ; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:25:03 +0100 (CET) From: Paul de Vrieze To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:24:55 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.92 References: <20051122144745.GR12982@mail.lieber.org> <4383E989.2090202@leetworks.com> In-Reply-To: <4383E989.2090202@leetworks.com> X-Face: #Lb+'V@sGJ;ptgo5}V"W+5OCoo{LZv;bh,s,`WKLi/J)ed1_$0;6X<=?utf-8?q?700LVV/=3BLqPhiDP=5E=0A=09=27f=5Dfnv?=@%6M8\'HR1t=aFx;ePfp{ZQoBe+e)JOQ8T5*(_;mHY+cltLGq<;@$Y,=?utf-8?q?O=5C=24=0A=09Tm=23G6M?=,g![Q62J{na*S9d;R[^8pc%u\aiLqU@`kJtYl"^6pxdW Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2323688.WQhhQoluPn"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200511231025.02819.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 804a54ce-6cee-46a5-85b5-591498eb42f0 X-Archives-Hash: 1191491e74cbb9a0ff9d1e90110c68b8 --nextPart2323688.WQhhQoluPn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 23 November 2005 05:01, Andrew Muraco wrote: > > (I've read all of the comments up until now, but my response is not > directed at any particular post.) > > Facts: (according to me, and what I've read) > -The releng team DID make a good decision by making stage 3 default in > the instructions. > -The releng team _DID_NOT_ do a sufficient job of making the community > aware of the changes BEFORE they occurred (I didn't know about this > change until after it was done, and Gentoo.org is my home page, I read > the GWN) > -Stage 1 & 2 tar balls and instructions ARE available > > OPINION: > - This change should be GLEP'd, as it effects everyone that installs > Gentoo (to some degree, most do not suffer tho) > - Stage 1 SHOULD continue to be released and maintained, instructions > clearly stating risks and LACK of SUPPORT and easily visibility from > the install docs (which it seems it does not have (according to posts), > although, It is perfectly clear to me.) This whole issue has been discussed on gentoo-releng@g.o before. While not= =20 quite as noisy as dev, everyone had their say. It is clear to me that the=20 decision is right the way it was made. A GLEP wasn't necessary as it was=20 discussed and approved by all involved (on the releng list). Most people that complain are probably misinformed about the usefulness of= =20 stages 1 and 2. They are really only useful if you know what you're doing=20 and don't really need the handbook that much. Those users should be able=20 to find the alternative installation docs. I do agree however that there=20 should be some link to the relevant documentation from the handbook. Paul =2D-=20 Paul de Vrieze Gentoo Developer Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net --nextPart2323688.WQhhQoluPn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2-ecc0.1.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBDhDVubKx5DBjWFdsRAldoAJ9++vZk0TZ6hwa1Ux4n6suypN4GUwCfarvW BdjAeEnAOXk45pe8g5ZR1MU= =3/kY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2323688.WQhhQoluPn-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list