On Wednesday 23 November 2005 05:01, Andrew Muraco wrote:
>
> (I've read all of the comments up until now, but my response is not
> directed at any particular post.)
>
> Facts: (according to me, and what I've read)
> -The releng team DID make a good decision by making stage 3 default in
> the instructions.
> -The releng team _DID_NOT_ do a sufficient job of making the community
> aware of the changes BEFORE they occurred (I didn't know about this
> change until after it was done, and Gentoo.org is my home page, I read
> the GWN)
> -Stage 1 & 2 tar balls and instructions ARE available
>
> OPINION:
> - This change should be GLEP'd, as it effects everyone that installs
> Gentoo (to some degree, most do not suffer tho)
> - Stage 1 SHOULD continue to be released and maintained, instructions
> clearly stating risks and LACK of SUPPORT and easily visibility from
> the install docs (which it seems it does not have (according to posts),
> although, It is perfectly clear to me.)

This whole issue has been discussed on gentoo-releng@g.o before. While not 
quite as noisy as dev, everyone had their say. It is clear to me that the 
decision is right the way it was made. A GLEP wasn't necessary as it was 
discussed and approved by all involved (on the releng list).

Most people that complain are probably misinformed about the usefulness of 
stages 1 and 2. They are really only useful if you know what you're doing 
and don't really need the handbook that much. Those users should be able 
to find the alternative installation docs. I do agree however that there 
should be some link to the relevant documentation from the handbook.

Paul

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Paul de Vrieze
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