From: Paul de Vrieze <pauldv@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 10:24:55 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200511231025.02819.pauldv@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4383E989.2090202@leetworks.com>
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On Wednesday 23 November 2005 05:01, Andrew Muraco wrote:
>
> (I've read all of the comments up until now, but my response is not
> directed at any particular post.)
>
> Facts: (according to me, and what I've read)
> -The releng team DID make a good decision by making stage 3 default in
> the instructions.
> -The releng team _DID_NOT_ do a sufficient job of making the community
> aware of the changes BEFORE they occurred (I didn't know about this
> change until after it was done, and Gentoo.org is my home page, I read
> the GWN)
> -Stage 1 & 2 tar balls and instructions ARE available
>
> OPINION:
> - This change should be GLEP'd, as it effects everyone that installs
> Gentoo (to some degree, most do not suffer tho)
> - Stage 1 SHOULD continue to be released and maintained, instructions
> clearly stating risks and LACK of SUPPORT and easily visibility from
> the install docs (which it seems it does not have (according to posts),
> although, It is perfectly clear to me.)
This whole issue has been discussed on gentoo-releng@g.o before. While not
quite as noisy as dev, everyone had their say. It is clear to me that the
decision is right the way it was made. A GLEP wasn't necessary as it was
discussed and approved by all involved (on the releng list).
Most people that complain are probably misinformed about the usefulness of
stages 1 and 2. They are really only useful if you know what you're doing
and don't really need the handbook that much. Those users should be able
to find the alternative installation docs. I do agree however that there
should be some link to the relevant documentation from the handbook.
Paul
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Paul de Vrieze
Gentoo Developer
Mail: pauldv@gentoo.org
Homepage: http://www.devrieze.net
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Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-22 14:47 [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Kurt Lieber
2005-11-22 14:37 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-22 15:14 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26 ` Marc Hildebrand
2005-11-22 15:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:15 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-22 16:33 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:13 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-23 4:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23 5:15 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 6:16 ` R Hill
2005-11-23 11:41 ` Duncan
2005-11-23 7:04 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 15:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " solar
2005-11-22 15:38 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:47 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-22 15:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:25 ` solar
2005-11-22 16:40 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:40 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-23 5:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23 5:36 ` Dale
2005-11-23 6:08 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-23 5:43 ` Tuan Van
2005-11-23 20:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Owen
2005-11-23 20:13 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:16 ` Mike Owen
2005-11-23 21:21 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:31 ` Bruno
2005-11-22 14:53 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:15 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Kirchner
2005-11-22 16:39 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:12 ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-22 17:51 ` Simon Stelling
2005-11-22 17:59 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:08 ` Joe McCann
2005-11-22 17:40 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:02 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 18:48 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:59 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:23 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:13 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-22 18:20 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:47 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-23 17:30 ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-22 18:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 18:16 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-22 19:04 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:47 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 18:29 ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-24 20:49 ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " lnxg33k
2005-11-25 14:28 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-02 5:21 ` lnxg33k
2005-11-22 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:28 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:16 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 20:28 ` Alexey Chumakov
2005-11-22 21:02 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:42 ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-22 21:13 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:58 ` Re[2]: " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 21:36 ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 23:26 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-23 0:55 ` Re[6]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 1:09 ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-11-23 1:13 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-23 1:30 ` Re[6]: " George Prowse
2005-11-23 10:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 11:06 ` Re[8]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 13:01 ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 13:19 ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 15:57 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-23 14:16 ` solar
2005-11-23 13:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 15:10 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 15:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:54 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:06 ` Andrew Gaffney
2005-11-22 16:18 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:30 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:15 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 18:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:24 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 16:56 ` Benjamin Judas
2005-11-22 20:54 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 18:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-23 4:01 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-23 9:24 ` Paul de Vrieze [this message]
2005-11-23 14:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-24 5:26 ` Sven Vermeulen
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