From: Wernfried Haas <amne@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 20:13:57 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051122191356.GA20138@superlupo.rechner> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1132677184.27288.40.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net>
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 11:33:04AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> Just because you downloaded them previously does not mean you didn't
> download them.
Yes, but i already have them and don't need to download them any
more in this scenario.
> > Btw, if i use stage 3 and then emerge -e world to recompile my whole
> > system with -omg-optimized i assume stage 3 may lose against stage 1
> > and compiling -omg-optimized from the beginning. Not that it makes
> > much sense to do that though.
>
> *sigh*
>
> You have proven my point. Thank you.
No i haven't, but you're still welcome. Maybe i was not clear enough
about the definition of losing (see below).
> If you compile the same sources
> with the same settings, you get the same output. It doesn't matter if
> you started from a stage1, stage2, stage3, or stage4 tarball.
Sorry, I wasn't really refering to the output but the bytes used for
downloading the stage and the distfiles.
Assuming emerge -e world compiles exactly the same packages (same
versions as well) as stage 1 would mean you're a bit better off with
stage 1 because it's slightly smaller. Hence stage 3 may lose by a few
bytes here.
Look, i'm not arguing with you and even though i think stage 1 has
some cool features here i agree removing it may be a good idea. I just
wanted to point out there are _some_ specific situations where you're
better off with stage 1 under certain circumstances because you asked
if there's anything stage 1 can do that 3 doesn't. ;-)
cheers,
Wernfried
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2005-11-22 14:47 [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Kurt Lieber
2005-11-22 14:37 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-22 15:14 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26 ` Marc Hildebrand
2005-11-22 15:48 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:15 ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-22 16:33 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:13 ` Wernfried Haas [this message]
2005-11-23 4:58 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23 5:15 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 6:16 ` R Hill
2005-11-23 11:41 ` Duncan
2005-11-23 7:04 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 15:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " solar
2005-11-22 15:38 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:47 ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-22 15:58 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:25 ` solar
2005-11-22 16:40 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:40 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-23 5:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23 5:36 ` Dale
2005-11-23 6:08 ` Brian Harring
2005-11-23 5:43 ` Tuan Van
2005-11-23 20:05 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Owen
2005-11-23 20:13 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:16 ` Mike Owen
2005-11-23 21:21 ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:31 ` Bruno
2005-11-22 14:53 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:15 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas Kirchner
2005-11-22 16:39 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:12 ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-22 17:51 ` Simon Stelling
2005-11-22 17:59 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:08 ` Joe McCann
2005-11-22 17:40 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:02 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 18:48 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:59 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:23 ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:13 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-22 18:20 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:47 ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-23 17:30 ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-22 18:03 ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 18:16 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:17 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-22 19:04 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:47 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 18:29 ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-24 20:49 ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " lnxg33k
2005-11-25 14:28 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-02 5:21 ` lnxg33k
2005-11-22 19:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:28 ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:16 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 20:28 ` Alexey Chumakov
2005-11-22 21:02 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:42 ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-22 21:13 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:58 ` Re[2]: " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 21:36 ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 23:26 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-23 0:55 ` Re[6]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 1:09 ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-11-23 1:13 ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-23 1:30 ` Re[6]: " George Prowse
2005-11-23 10:25 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 11:06 ` Re[8]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 13:01 ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 13:19 ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 15:57 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-23 14:16 ` solar
2005-11-23 13:50 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 15:10 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 15:49 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:54 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:06 ` Andrew Gaffney
2005-11-22 16:18 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:30 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:15 ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 18:37 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:24 ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 16:56 ` Benjamin Judas
2005-11-22 20:54 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 18:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-23 4:01 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-23 9:24 ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 14:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-24 5:26 ` Sven Vermeulen
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