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From: Thomas Kirchner <lists@halffull.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:19:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051122161955.GA15198@halffull.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1132672527.27288.21.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net>

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* On Nov 22 10:15, Chris Gianelloni (gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
> It isn't pretty much anymore.  It *is* exactly the same.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're going to attempt to get the same 
result as a stage1 with a stage3 - (which won't be exactly the same, 
given the defaults of stage3 that we don't all agree with) - don't you 
have to download the huge stage3 tarball *and* all of the distfiles?  
With a stage1, you only need the distfiles.  Seems like a big change, 
especially for those without fast connections.

I'm against this change, personally.  Stage1 has *always* been for 
advanced users.  If someone screws up their own system (which is possible 
in any number of other ways, as well) then it's their fault.  Gentoo 
isn't about babying users.  It is about choice.  And if changing that is 
the only way to reduce your workload, well...
Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-22 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-22 14:47 [gentoo-dev] Decision to remove stage1/2 from installation documentation Kurt Lieber
2005-11-22 14:37 ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-22 15:14   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26     ` Marc Hildebrand
2005-11-22 15:48       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:15         ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-22 16:33           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:13             ` Wernfried Haas
2005-11-23  4:58         ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23  5:15           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23  6:16             ` R Hill
2005-11-23 11:41               ` Duncan
2005-11-23  7:04           ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 15:29     ` [gentoo-dev] " solar
2005-11-22 15:38       ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:47         ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-22 15:58       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:25         ` solar
2005-11-22 16:40           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:40     ` Andrea Barisani
2005-11-23  5:19       ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill
2005-11-23  5:36         ` Dale
2005-11-23  6:08           ` Brian Harring
2005-11-23  5:43         ` Tuan Van
2005-11-23 20:05     ` [gentoo-dev] " Mike Owen
2005-11-23 20:13       ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:16         ` Mike Owen
2005-11-23 21:21           ` Dan Meltzer
2005-11-23 21:31     ` Bruno
2005-11-22 14:53 ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 15:15   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 16:19     ` Thomas Kirchner [this message]
2005-11-22 16:39       ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:12         ` Harald van Dijk
2005-11-22 17:51           ` Simon Stelling
2005-11-22 17:59             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:08               ` Joe McCann
2005-11-22 17:40         ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:02           ` Stephen P. Becker
2005-11-22 18:48             ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:59           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:23             ` Abhay Kedia
2005-11-22 18:13       ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-22 18:20         ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:47           ` Danny van Dyk
2005-11-23 17:30             ` Sven Vermeulen
2005-11-22 18:03     ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 18:16       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 18:17       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-22 19:04         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:47           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 18:29       ` Daniel Ostrow
2005-11-24 20:49         ` [gentoo-dev] [OT] " lnxg33k
2005-11-25 14:28           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-12-02  5:21             ` lnxg33k
2005-11-22 19:06       ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 19:28         ` Grant Goodyear
2005-11-22 19:57           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:16             ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 20:28               ` Alexey Chumakov
2005-11-22 21:02                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:42               ` Alec Joseph Warner
2005-11-22 21:13                 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 20:58               ` Re[2]: " Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 21:36                 ` Re[4]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 23:26                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-23  0:55                     ` Re[6]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23  1:09                       ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-11-23  1:13                       ` Mark Loeser
2005-11-23  1:30                       ` Re[6]: " George Prowse
2005-11-23 10:25                       ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 11:06                         ` Re[8]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-23 13:01                           ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 13:19                             ` Ned Ludd
2005-11-23 15:57                               ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-23 14:16                                 ` solar
2005-11-23 13:50                           ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-22 15:10 ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:26   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 15:49     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 15:54   ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:06     ` Andrew Gaffney
2005-11-22 16:18       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 16:30     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:15       ` Lance Albertson
2005-11-22 18:37         ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-22 17:24       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-22 16:56 ` Benjamin Judas
2005-11-22 20:54   ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-11-22 18:06 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-23  4:01 ` Andrew Muraco
2005-11-23  9:24   ` Paul de Vrieze
2005-11-23 14:12     ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-11-24  5:26     ` Sven Vermeulen

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