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From: Thomas de Grenier de Latour <degrenier@easyconnect.fr>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 00:06:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20051121000638.00459520@eusebe> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1132525399.1292.4.camel@Darkmere.darkmere>

On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:23:19 +0100
"Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)" <spider@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-11-20 at 11:55 -0800, Michael Marineau wrote:
> 
> > For users who do like the functionality just properly document
> > the existance of USE_ORDER in the install guide.
> 
> However, I'd -also- want the IUSE="+auto -bongodrums alpha beta
> +zeta"  to be set, perhaps with a new USE_ORDER variable
> ":ebuild:" ?  

Imho, that's the problem with documenting USE_ORDER (although
it's a minor one): if a user set USE_ORDER="env:pkg:conf:defaults"
in his make.conf and a later version of portage introduces some new
interesting value, he will miss this new feature without noticing.

Since it seems that the common usage of user-defined USE_ORDER is
to remove values, but not actually to change their priorities
(probably because the default ones are the only ones which really
make sense), i would rather see a split in two distinct vars:
 - FOO (i'm not good to invent names) would be portage internal
and define valid values and their respective priorities.
 - BAR would be accessible to the users as an incremental var, and
would define what values should be taken into account.

FOO default would be "env:pkg:conf:auto:defaults".
BAR default would be "auto conf default env pkg".

This way, users could set BAR="-auto" in make.conf, which would
really mean "take all of the default USE_ORDER but the auto thing".
And the day "ebuild" or any other new feature is implemented, this
user will have it automatically (just like he would get any new
enabled-by-default FEATURES flag for instance).

--
TGL.
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  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-20 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-18 15:33 [gentoo-dev] use.defaults and pointless commits Jakub Moc
2005-11-18 15:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jakub Moc
2005-11-18 15:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Donnie Berkholz
2005-11-18 15:43 ` [gentoo-dev] punting the use.defaults feature Mike Frysinger
2005-11-18 15:59   ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-18 19:18     ` Drake Wyrm
2005-11-18 19:31       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 19:45         ` Kurt Lieber
2005-11-18 20:03           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2005-11-18 20:08       ` Re[2]: " Jakub Moc
2005-11-18 20:31       ` Zac Medico
2005-11-18 23:14       ` Mike Frysinger
2005-11-20 19:55         ` Michael Marineau
2005-11-20 22:23           ` Spider (D.m.D. Lj.)
2005-11-20 23:06             ` Thomas de Grenier de Latour [this message]
2005-11-22 18:22               ` Marius Mauch
2005-11-22 19:00                 ` Mike Frysinger

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