From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EdVXF-0002f3-CC for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:25:53 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAJGOnZh009548; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:24:49 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAJGLrmb013789 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:21:53 GMT Received: from jaguar.lieber.org ([217.160.252.168]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1EdVTN-0007Vn-Bi for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jaguar.lieber.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B1929C1F3 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from jaguar.lieber.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (jaguar.lieber.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24774-04 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by jaguar.lieber.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BE9DF29C101; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:26:20 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:26:20 +0000 From: Kurt Lieber To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev] Request for changes to GLEP 41 Message-ID: <20051119162620.GU12982@mail.lieber.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AQYPrgrEUc/1pSX1" Content-Disposition: inline X-GPG-Key: http://www.lieber.org/kurtl.pub.gpg User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.8i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lieber.org X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-3.3, AWL=0.004, BAYES_00=-2.599] X-Spam-Score: -5.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Archives-Salt: 61ed27cd-39d3-49fd-8bc7-ac0ecba23ff0 X-Archives-Hash: 43150d687c215cadcfa58061fb91b179 --AQYPrgrEUc/1pSX1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline OK, enough has been said about the current problems that some people have with GLEP 41. I'm not going to belabor that. Instead, I'm going to ask for one of three changes. What I object to most strongly is the notion that we're classifying devs based on their relative worth to the project and assigning them email addresses accordingly. Some folks will remember far back enough to when we had developers, senior developers, etc. and the problems that that caused. I don't want to see the same thing happen here. So, could we please make one of the following three changes to GLEP 41: * Drop the idea of giving the arch testers an email alias altogether I don't see what benefit this provides, to be honest. It's not much of a spiff and if someone is signing up to help with testing just for the email address, they're not here for the right reasons anyway. * Change @subdomain.gentoo.org to @gentoo.org. If we want to give them a spiff in recognition of their contribution to the project, give them the real thing. We do this today for any number of other non-developer groups, including GWN translators, documentation translators, etc. * Create an entirely new domain This is my least favorite option, but one that I offer as a way to try and compromise on all of this. I still think this segregates people, but in a much less discriminatory fashion. Additionally, with a new domain, we could open it up to a much broader audience. (offering email addresses to folks who donate in other ways -- financially, hardware, bandwidth, etc.) This may seem largely like a matter of semantics and I guess it is. However, this whole disagreement is largely about perception anyway and a separate domain just seems less disagreeable to me. --kurt --AQYPrgrEUc/1pSX1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDf1IsJPpRNiftIEYRAvERAKCXMQ7R/n2dzo5/ix+mwWilyRf5IQCdEiCR ZPwj4BWTvUPxEvLhsxhs1uU= =Xcpv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AQYPrgrEUc/1pSX1-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list