From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EaV6Q-0002i8-LT for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:21:47 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jAB9L2A3023049; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:21:02 GMT Received: from hera.cwi.nl (hera.cwi.nl [192.16.191.8]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jAB9JGmX016868 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:19:16 GMT Received: from pegasus.ins.cwi.nl (pegasus.ins.cwi.nl [192.16.196.142]) by hera.cwi.nl with ESMTP id jAB9JFvS021917 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:16 +0100 (MET) Received: by pegasus.ins.cwi.nl (Postfix, from userid 10222) id C26A8E0049; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0100 From: Grobian To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two Message-ID: <20051111091915.GC7217@gentoo.org> References: <1131309435.8543.16.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <20051106214747.4e6a9cff@snowdrop.home> <1131382994.8546.34.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> <436F9DC6.8040106@gentoo.org> <1131390151.7826.20.camel@Memoria.anyarch.net> <1131390881.7826.24.camel@Memoria.anyarch.net> <436FB4BB.3020205@gentoo.org> <1131658428.8511.64.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1131658428.8511.64.camel@mogheiden.gnqs.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 (Linux 2.6.13-1.1526_FC4, VIM - Vi IMproved 6.3) Organization: Gentoo Foundation, Inc. X-Archives-Salt: 984ad235-5a5e-414a-8bc1-eaf3e736429e X-Archives-Hash: e2a3b2a8b6819e7b4b85e3eff4417343 On 10-11-2005 21:33:48 +0000, Stuart Herbert wrote: > We need to establish *one* authoritative source of news. We can't do > that if we simultaneously launch several sources of news all at once. > We have to launch *one* service first, give the userbase time to adjust > to that, and then start making the news available via additional > sources. Yep, so create that central source on the web, and fork off mailing list posts, RSS-feeds and stuff based on this central repository. Also let portage warn users based on the information in this repository. We can start creating and populating the central web resource _right now_, as all the infrastructure is there. The mailing lists shouldn't be a problem as well. It all makes sense... ... as long as you include the right handles for users to adjust their preferences. You missed my point here, when I was just trying to indicate that in our user base, there will be many different users. Different users as in different preferences. Forcing the portage solution, the mailing list solution, or which other solution upon a user is evil. People should be *free* to choose. That you define a default setting of enabling the portage feature is fine with me, but include clear directions to disable such feature and allow it to send mails if the possible infrastructure is there and the user wants it. Take all preferences into account. I don't see why you would want to achieve your 100% user coverage aim through only *one* channel. I am strongly in favour of using multiple channels to do that. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo for Mac OS X Project -- Interim Lead -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list