From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EZ6Gb-00023Z-AB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:38:29 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA7CbkSV020437; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:37:46 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA7Ca15x024827 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:36:02 GMT Received: from zh034158.ppp.dion.ne.jp ([222.3.34.158] helo=opteron246.suzuki-stubbs.home) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1EZ6ED-00006m-Bi for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:36:01 +0000 Received: by opteron246.suzuki-stubbs.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 14F612488CD; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:37:11 +0900 (JST) From: Jason Stubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: GLEP 42 (Was: Getting Important Updates To Users) Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:37:10 +0900 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.92 References: <200511010836.29453.chriswhite@gentoo.org> <436C444E.5090700@egr.msu.edu> <200511071111.45798.pauldv@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <200511071111.45798.pauldv@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511072137.10975.jstubbs@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 84c56720-a94e-4d9a-adeb-bdfea6fb5fea X-Archives-Hash: bccdac5d975afb0d49b6043b4c8cc4a1 On Monday 07 November 2005 19:11, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > On Saturday 05 November 2005 06:34, Alec Warner wrote: > > emerge --changelog has no 'official' format. I believe echangelog > > actually puts the changes in the correct format for emerge -l to read, > > however not everyone uses echangelog. Many developers commit in an > > incompatable syntax causing the parsing to fail. This I believe, is an > > implementation issue. Obviously if someone is trying to get an upgrade > > guide to users they aren't going to commit in an incompatable format. > > I would also like to add that the changelog has too much information to be > usefull as a news source. In all honesty, when I'm emerging a new version > of a package I'm not interested in keyword bumps, small cosmetic changes, > added auxiliary scripts or documentation. These are all documented (and > should be) in the changelog. If I update my system however, I'm mainly > interested in knowing whether something is going to break. News would be > a way to provide this knowledge to a user in an as concise as possible > way. So what's the point of the ChangeLog again? Move load from the CVS server and onto the rsync servers? (Don't answer that - just beating a dead horse ;) I'm really just against having it in emerge, especially with the current suggestion of portage just doing a little bit of maintenance work for external tools and nothing else. -- Jason Stubbs -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list