From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EZ2bI-0001CN-Ia for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 08:43:36 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA78gsMP005165; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 08:42:54 GMT Received: from hermes.orakel.ods.org (dsl67-66.fastxdsl.nl [62.251.66.67]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA78f5Mt029304 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 08:41:06 GMT Received: from poseidon.titans.orakel.ods.org ([10.6.2.250]) by hermes.orakel.ods.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.54) id 1EZ2Yr-00029a-36 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 07 Nov 2005 09:41:05 +0100 Received: from poseidon.orakel.ods.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by poseidon.titans.orakel.ods.org (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id jA78f4cq014969 for ; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:41:04 +0100 Received: (from fabian@localhost) by poseidon.orakel.ods.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id jA78f4t9014968 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:41:04 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:41:04 +0100 From: Grobian To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] GLEP 42 "Critical News Reporting" Round Two Message-ID: <20051107084104.GA14775@gentoo.org> References: <20051105005814.0de0d8ff@snowdrop.home> <436C8951.4010008@gentoo.org> <20051105173426.1ce20468@snowdrop.home> <436D32F3.7010809@gentoo.org> <20051105230709.17ecd036@snowdrop.home> <436DBFEE.4030602@gentoo.org> <20051106215635.16d8d03f@snowdrop.home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20051106215635.16d8d03f@snowdrop.home> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Content-Scanned: by hermes.orakel.ods.org (Exim Exiscan) using SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-Archives-Salt: 445dc79d-e292-412a-ba8e-af4e9a8c343f X-Archives-Hash: d6c940e53a09b663d4c89119e95bb3b5 On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 09:56:35PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > | Then what is the point of this GLEP? Instead, just warn people > | through existing intrastructure, which is cheap from an engineering > | perspective because everything is already there in place, and don't > | think of implementing all kinds of extras just to warn a user one > | extra time, since "trying to warn them any further becomes futile" > | anyway. > > The current warning levels we have are insufficient. This GLEP proposes > a new system for warnings which will be far harder to accidentally > ignore. There are, however, limits to how far we can reasonably go > before we make the solution worse than the problem. Remember that there are packages in the tree that satisfy the preemptive requirement, since they simply die when trying to upgrade and a certain amount of prerequisites is not met. This prevents the user from losing data files or making them inaccesible, while at the same pointing out what needs to be done and why, using a short message. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo for Mac OS X Project -- Interim Lead -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list